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System for a (Small) Multi-Unit Building psandler70 09-29-2006
Posted by on September 29, 2006, 2:31 pm
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I am looking for some initial information on the types of security
systems would be appropriate for a small multi-unit building. Any
advice or links to information would be appreciated.

Our garage was broken into a few nights ago. They forced the doors on
BOTH entrances to the garage, even though both doors give access to the
same area. Nothing was stolen (there is nothing to steal), but we
obviously don't like the idea of someone being on the property in the
first place.

It's a four unit building, completely surrounded by a fence and garage
(that borders the alley). There is one area where the garage meets the
fence where it is very easy to hop the fence. One thought was that we
could aim a camera at this spot on the fence, since we suspect that
this was how they got onto the property. We may just extend the fence
a few feet to make entry more difficult at that point.

Is there any reasonable way of adding security to the GROUNDS of the
property, in addition to securing the garage building/doors and each of
the individual residences?

Also, if all the residents were to agree to commit to a security
system, would it be cheaper (or even possible) to buy a single package
to secure the whole property and all residences?


Thanks for any info/advice.

Phil


Posted by Bill on September 30, 2006, 12:04 pm
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An electronic security system usually alerts [whoever] *AFTER* someone has
gained entry. I feel it is best to prevent or discourage them from entering
in the first place.

Fix the fence so it is very difficult to gain access. Install bars or tough
physical security on doors and windows as much as you can [budget thing].
Get dog. Get alarm system signs and post all around your property and fence
even if you don't have a security system. These things will make them go to
an easier target. Get signs at following link or search google.com for
security signs...
http://needdecals.stores.yahoo.net/homsecsigand.html

So far as alarms go, sometimes electronic alarm systems are setup to alert a
person on site (such as a security guard). If there is always someone there,
then the onsite alert or "local alarm" would save you the monthly expense of
monitoring.

If everyone is gone all day or whatever, then monitoring would be best.

As for multiple homeowners sharing the same system, this does not work very
well in my experience. There are technical problems with gaining access for
service. One persons home may be causing problems and they are not there, so
can't fix system, etc. Then who pays for false alarms, service calls, etc.
Best to have separate systems.

>I am looking for some initial information on the types of security
> systems would be appropriate for a small multi-unit building. Any
> advice or links to information would be appreciated.
>
> Our garage was broken into a few nights ago. They forced the doors on
> BOTH entrances to the garage, even though both doors give access to the
> same area. Nothing was stolen (there is nothing to steal), but we
> obviously don't like the idea of someone being on the property in the
> first place.
>
> It's a four unit building, completely surrounded by a fence and garage
> (that borders the alley). There is one area where the garage meets the
> fence where it is very easy to hop the fence. One thought was that we
> could aim a camera at this spot on the fence, since we suspect that
> this was how they got onto the property. We may just extend the fence
> a few feet to make entry more difficult at that point.
>
> Is there any reasonable way of adding security to the GROUNDS of the
> property, in addition to securing the garage building/doors and each of
> the individual residences?
>
> Also, if all the residents were to agree to commit to a security
> system, would it be cheaper (or even possible) to buy a single package
> to secure the whole property and all residences?
>
>
> Thanks for any info/advice.
>
> Phil
>



Posted by Roland Moore on September 30, 2006, 2:17 pm
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You have defined your objectives fairly well but not your budget. A single
system could offer some economy by only having to pay for one monitored
account instead of many as well as only one control panel.
I can't fully picture your set up but you could deploy a single system with
multiple partitions. Each partition could be unique and there could be a
common area partition for the grounds, but reliable out of door protection
isn't cheap at all. Just a single ASIM detector (made for outdoors - looks
like a camera - like the detectors on traffic lights replacing loop
detectors) for your fenced area could be well over a grand installed price.
They work well once set properly but it takes lots of time with a laptop and
two people (and sometimes more than one setup visit unfortunately) to get it
right. Use most anything else out of doors besides ASIM type detectors and
risk the false alarm fees eating you alive. If you used a wireless system
instead of trenching you could deploy it quickly. Wireless could work in all
the units as well. You might have to use a repeater if the signal strenght
is too low in some area(s). A proper wireless survey would let you know in
advance if it is necessary to have one. Inovonics Wireless has the best
range that I have worked with although some guys I respect with lots of
wireless experience prefer ITI. Bosch 9412GV2 works with Inovonics Wireless
and supports up to 238 RF points and eight partitions of regualr partitions,
master partitions, associate partitions or shared partitions and could
technically do what you're asking. I am certain there are many others brands
with similar offerings but I have experience with Bosch gear (a lot) and
ASIM (not many because most end users faint at the price) and have done
similar set ups. No big problems to report yet.

>I am looking for some initial information on the types of security
> systems would be appropriate for a small multi-unit building. Any
> advice or links to information would be appreciated.
>
> Our garage was broken into a few nights ago. They forced the doors on
> BOTH entrances to the garage, even though both doors give access to the
> same area. Nothing was stolen (there is nothing to steal), but we
> obviously don't like the idea of someone being on the property in the
> first place.
>
> It's a four unit building, completely surrounded by a fence and garage
> (that borders the alley). There is one area where the garage meets the
> fence where it is very easy to hop the fence. One thought was that we
> could aim a camera at this spot on the fence, since we suspect that
> this was how they got onto the property. We may just extend the fence
> a few feet to make entry more difficult at that point.
>
> Is there any reasonable way of adding security to the GROUNDS of the
> property, in addition to securing the garage building/doors and each of
> the individual residences?
>
> Also, if all the residents were to agree to commit to a security
> system, would it be cheaper (or even possible) to buy a single package
> to secure the whole property and all residences?
>
>
> Thanks for any info/advice.
>
> Phil
>



Posted by jacolo on October 2, 2006, 2:59 pm
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Hi,
I am owner of Javery Enterprises and we are an authority in Security
Systems and like products.

We have put together very resonable and effective Security Systems for
the Home, Apartment and Townhome. One of these systems will definitely
work for your needs.
Please check out the following pages and see what we put together.

Home- http://www.usfreeads.com/580969-cls.html
Apartment- http://www.usfreeads.com/580826-cls.html
Townhome- http://www.usfreeads.com/580891-cls.html

If one of these systems don't work for you please visit my web site and
checkout all our products. http://www.javeryentpsdp.com

If you have further questrions please contact me from my site.

Alan
psandler70@hotmail.com wrote:
> I am looking for some initial information on the types of security
> systems would be appropriate for a small multi-unit building. Any
> advice or links to information would be appreciated.
>
> Our garage was broken into a few nights ago. They forced the doors on
> BOTH entrances to the garage, even though both doors give access to the
> same area. Nothing was stolen (there is nothing to steal), but we
> obviously don't like the idea of someone being on the property in the
> first place.
>
> It's a four unit building, completely surrounded by a fence and garage
> (that borders the alley). There is one area where the garage meets the
> fence where it is very easy to hop the fence. One thought was that we
> could aim a camera at this spot on the fence, since we suspect that
> this was how they got onto the property. We may just extend the fence
> a few feet to make entry more difficult at that point.
>
> Is there any reasonable way of adding security to the GROUNDS of the
> property, in addition to securing the garage building/doors and each of
> the individual residences?
>
> Also, if all the residents were to agree to commit to a security
> system, would it be cheaper (or even possible) to buy a single package
> to secure the whole property and all residences?
>
>
> Thanks for any info/advice.
>
> Phil


Posted by Jim on October 3, 2006, 1:35 am
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jacolo wrote:
> Hi,
> I am owner of Javery Enterprises and we are an authority in Security
> Systems and like products.
>
> We have put together very resonable and effective Security Systems for
> the Home, Apartment and Townhome. One of these systems will definitely
> work for your needs.
> Please check out the following pages and see what we put together.
>
> Home- http://www.usfreeads
> Apartment- http://www.usfreeads
> Townhome- http://www.usfreeads
>
> If one of these systems don't work for you please visit my web site and
> checkout all our products. http://www.javeryentpsdp.com
>
> If you have further questrions please contact me from my site.
>
> Alan

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