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Posted by Jim on June 18, 2009, 10:42 am
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Doctors vs Gun owners:
Doctors :
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S.. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.
Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services.
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Guns:
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's
80 million)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is
1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.
Statistics courtesy of FBI
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So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more
dangerous than gun owners.
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Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'
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FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT
ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.
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Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban
doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!
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Out of concern for the public at large, I withheld the statistics on
lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek
medical attention!
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Posted by Robert L Bass on June 18, 2009, 5:53 pm
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"Jim" wrote:
>
> Doctors vs Gun owners:
>
> Doctors :
> (A) The number of physicians in the U.S.. is 700,000.
>
> (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
>
> (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.
>
> Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services.
>
> So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more
> dangerous than gun owners.
The quoted statistics don't take into account the more significant issue of
"number of overall incidents." Let us assume that the average doctor sees 30
patients per day. Now let us assume that gun owners accidentally fire their
weapons only once every 10 years.
If we multiply the number of doctors (700,000) by patients per day (30) and
again multiply the result by number of days the average doctor actually works
in a given year (say 200) we have 4,200,000,000 doctor-patient interactions
per year. Divide this into 120,000 and we find that you have a 0.000028
chance of dying from a doctor visit.
Now take the number of accidental gunshots -- 8,000,000 owners once every 10
years. 1,500 of these accidental discharges result in deaths. Divide 1,500
by (80,000,000/10) and we find that the likelihood of death from accidental
discharge of a firearm is 0.0001875. Thus the chance of dying from any given
accidental discharge of a firearm is nearly 7 times that of visiting a doctor.
This does not take into account the number of people who die of heart attacks
after receiving the physicians' bills. It also does not take into
consideration the probability that all of the statistics in the cited report
were made up on the spot by the author of the report, just like the ones I
just made up. :^)
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Robert L Bass
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Posted by tourman on June 19, 2009, 7:10 pm
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>> True, though I don't actually hate guns. =A0Handguns make great hammers =
and, in
> a pinch, you can sometimes use a rifle as a pry bar.
RHC: AARRRHH....use my $3500 custom made Open Springfield Armoury or
my $2500 Kimber Custom Shop .45's as a HAMMER.........Holy.#$$#^&^$%
%......Gawd....you jest.....!!!!!!! Oh, the insult.....:))
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Posted by Robert L Bass on June 20, 2009, 11:55 pm
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>
> RHC: AARRRHH....use my $3500 custom made Open Springfield Armoury or my
> $2500 Kimber Custom Shop .45's as a HAMMER.........Holy.#$$#^&^$%
> %......Gawd....you jest.....!!!!!!! Oh, the insult.....:))
Heh, heh, heh... :^)
I wouldn't know an "Open Springfield Armoury" from a paint ball gun if it fell
on my foot, Bob, but it does sound interesting. If not a hammer, how would it
do at prying open shipping cases?
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Robert L Bass
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DIY Alarm and Home Automation Store
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Fax 941-870-3252
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Posted by tourman on June 21, 2009, 9:51 am
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> "tourman" wrote:
>
> > RHC: AARRRHH....use my $3500 custom made Open Springfield Armoury or my
> > $2500 Kimber Custom Shop .45's as a HAMMER.........Holy.#$$#^&^$%
> > %......Gawd....you jest.....!!!!!!! =A0Oh, the insult.....:))
>
> Heh, heh, heh... :^)
>
> I wouldn't know an "Open Springfield Armoury" from a paint ball gun if it=
fell
> on my foot, Bob, but it does sound interesting. =A0If not a hammer, how w=
ould it
> do at prying open shipping cases?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>
> Bass Home Electronics
> DIY Alarm and Home Automation Storehttp://www.bassburglaralarms.com
> Sales & Service 941-870-2310
> Fax 941-870-3252
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>
RHC: Registrations is one of those bugaboos the gun control advocates
use to justify their actions. They portray registration of guns as a
simple matter, much like registering automobiles, so why should we be
afraid of it ? Well registering cars is done for several
purposes...the main one being revenue, the secondary one being control
and tracking. However, no one is refused registration of a vehicle
although they may not have a license to drive it, or have a suspended
one. Firearms registration is put forward as a means of tracking
stolen guns, which it can do, but experience in our country shows it
does only in a very limited way, but at a cost FAR greater than it's
value. The vast majority of guns used in "guns and gangs" crimes are
not stolen from private parties, but smuggled in on the black market.
I put up with the useless controls of registration and "transport
permits" daily. They have no bearing on controlling crime, but make my
life in real time much more difficult. I doubt that controlling me, or
tens of thousands like me, has any bearing on crime control !!
Make no mistake, gun registration has as it primary purpose to limit
who can own that firearm, and who can move around with it. Our long
gun registry has shown the futility of such a venture, costing
billions of dollars, with little to nothing to show for it. New
Zealand tried it and gave it up after 15 years for lack of benefit
versus cost. England did it, and simply used it as a means of
collecting legal firearms when they chose to ban handguns, which is
it's REAL purpose when all is said and done !
A "war" is not won by one decisive action, but a series of small
victories. In this case, gun control is far more likely to be
successful through a series of back door approaches to legislative
change - a local ordinance here, a small control law there! A State
control versus a Federal control ! This complexity of controls State
to State not only serves to fustrate legal ownership, but it also
makes it much more likely a traveller can run afoul of the laws of any
jurisdiction he is passing through. For example, simply travelling to
Florida with my competition guns, I must avoid New York city,
Washington; I can't travel through Maryland, nor Chicago. Last time I
faced an hour stoppage at the New York / Ontario border simply because
the Homeland Security officer had no idea what the US laws are. I
finally made it through after the ATF gave her shit and told her to
stop harrassing me - I had all the necessary permits (who in their
right mind would try to cross without them......)
Here in Canada, no one can own any kind of firearm without what is
called a PAL (Possession and Acquisition Certificate). This is good
for five years, and obtained only after a police background check,
sign on by your spouse that you are not a danger to her or anyone, and
written certification by someone else that they have known you for at
least two years and they can vouch for your character. This is
followed by a mandatory two day course given by the government to show
you know the laws, know how to handle the firearm properly, and have a
general knowledge of firearms. ONLY THEN, are you issued this PAL,
which is necessary for any firearms related activity - to purchase
guns or ammo, or to obtain other permits needed to move around with
restricted firearms (handguns, AR15, "military lookalikes" etc), or
non restricted (rifles and shotguns). This might seem onerous to US
citizens, but we have learned to live with it, and it does have the
benefit of ensuring gun ownership is taken seriously. But make no
mistake, controls don't end there !! We still have the bullshit of
registration, further controls over movement on restricted firearms,
plus the normal myriad of hunting license controls, and other sensible
controls over safe transport and storage. Bottom line, my sporting
activities here in Canada are totally controlled by the whim of the
Chief Firearms Officer of Ontario - a police authority heavily
influenced by the political party of the day that happens to be in
power. Although their influence is largely unobtrusive to me and other
shooters, we all know he can pull the plug at any time, or close down
any range at any time !! (as they have done)
Registration still remains the almost universally hated control. In
itself, it has lead to the greatest point of harrassment by unfriendly
authorities, and is a HUGE tax drain for limited if any benefits. And
since authorities almost universally can't be trusted to act in good
faith in the future, it is the point of greatest danger to continued
reasonable access to gun ownership by the general population.
I suggest you guys in the US fight it with everything at your
disposal. It IS the point of no return !!
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