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W2K3 3-tier CA Implementation EricS 11-10-2006
Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RXJpY1M=?= on November 10, 2006, 8:28 am
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I have been trying to follow all of the best practices and recommendations
for a W2K3 Enterprise CA solution. I have the Root installed, still online
for right now, and have been trying to get the Intermediate CA that will be
used for policies set up. I would like to follow Microsoft’s lead and use a
10 year, 2040 bit certificate. I have copied the Subordinate Certification
Authority template and increased it to 10 years, copied the new OID and
description from Intermediate Certification Authority and used both of them
in the CAPolicy.inf file in C:\WINDOWS, but I keep getting 2 year
certificates.

After resolving, I will need to create Issuing CA certificates from the
Policy CA that are 5 years and 2048 bits.

Thanks for ALL of the input.

Posted by Brian Komar [MVP] on November 10, 2006, 3:33 pm
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EricS@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> I have been trying to follow all of the best practices and recommendation=
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> for a W2K3 Enterprise CA solution. I have the Root installed, still onli=
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> for right now, and have been trying to get the Intermediate CA that will =
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> used for policies set up. I would like to follow Microsoft=E2=A4=3D3Fs l=
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> 10 year, 2040 bit certificate. I have copied the Subordinate Certificati=
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> Authority template and increased it to 10 years, copied the new OID and=
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> description from Intermediate Certification Authority and used both of th=
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> in the CAPolicy.inf file in C:\WINDOWS, but I keep getting 2 year=20
> certificates.
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> After resolving, I will need to create Issuing CA certificates from the=
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> Policy CA that are 5 years and 2048 bits.
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> Thanks for ALL of the input.
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You need to read the Best Practices whitepaper.... now....
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technolog
ies/security/ws3pkibp.mspx

1. How do you intend to change an online CA to an offline CA?
2> Look for two commands:
certutil -setreg CA\ValidityPeriodUnits =3D 10
certutil -setreg CA\ValidityPeriod =3D "Years"
3. If you are following best practices, a three tiered CA hierarchy has=20
*standalone* CAs for the root and policy tier. (you have used an=20
enterprise root, which you can never disconnect from the network, as it=20
is a domain member... You do not use a certificate tempalte for the=20
subordinate CA unless you are creating a fourth tier (a tier subordinate=20
to an enterprise CA).

I recommend you tear it all down, read the whitepaper, follow the=20
whitepaper when rebuilding...
Sorry to be blunt, but you are going down the wrong path
Brian

Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RXJpY1M=?= on November 14, 2006, 8:03 am
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I read them ...NOW... three times and since they were not giving me, the
customer, the information I required, I was hoping for some polite help to
point me in the correct direction, not a demeaning and belittling comment
from a Microsoft Representative.

Just one more reason to look elsewhere from both a product and support
standpoint.

I got this from a Linx admin:

1. No matter what environment you are in, install a standalone ROOT CA.
2. No matter what environment you are in, install a standalone subordinate CA
3. No matter what environment you are in, install your issuing CA's as
enterprise subordinate CA's, this is where your Active Directory integration
happens, based on the standalone subordinate CA.

"Brian Komar [MVP]" wrote:

> EricS@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> > I have been trying to follow all of the best practices and recommendations
> > for a W2K3 Enterprise CA solution. I have the Root installed, still online
> > for right now, and have been trying to get the Intermediate CA that will be
> > used for policies set up. I would like to follow Microsoftâ€=3Fs lead
and use a
> > 10 year, 2040 bit certificate. I have copied the Subordinate Certification
> > Authority template and increased it to 10 years, copied the new OID and
> > description from Intermediate Certification Authority and used both of them
> > in the CAPolicy.inf file in C:\WINDOWS, but I keep getting 2 year
> > certificates.
> >
> > After resolving, I will need to create Issuing CA certificates from the
> > Policy CA that are 5 years and 2048 bits.
> >
> > Thanks for ALL of the input.
> >
> You need to read the Best Practices whitepaper.... now....
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technolog
> ies/security/ws3pkibp.mspx
>
> 1. How do you intend to change an online CA to an offline CA?
> 2> Look for two commands:
> certutil -setreg CA\ValidityPeriodUnits = 10
> certutil -setreg CA\ValidityPeriod = "Years"
> 3. If you are following best practices, a three tiered CA hierarchy has
> *standalone* CAs for the root and policy tier. (you have used an
> enterprise root, which you can never disconnect from the network, as it
> is a domain member... You do not use a certificate tempalte for the
> subordinate CA unless you are creating a fourth tier (a tier subordinate
> to an enterprise CA).
>
> I recommend you tear it all down, read the whitepaper, follow the
> whitepaper when rebuilding...
> Sorry to be blunt, but you are going down the wrong path
> Brian
>

Posted by Brian Komar [MVP] on November 14, 2006, 8:46 am
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Comments inline...



EricS@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> I read them ...NOW... three times and since they were not giving me, the=
=20
> customer, the information I required, I was hoping for some polite help t=
o=20
> point me in the correct direction, not a demeaning and belittling comment=
=20
> from a Microsoft Representative.
>=20
First of all, I am not an employee of Microsoft (never have been). This=20
is just me providing free support to help users. Sorry, I cannot get how=20
many times you have read documents, but you seem to be not following the=20
recommendations that are out htere.


> Just one more reason to look elsewhere from both a product and support=20
> standpoint.
>=20
> I got this from a Linx admin:
>=20
> 1. No matter what environment you are in, install a standalone ROOT CA.
I can agree with this.
> 2. No matter what environment you are in, install a standalone subordinat=
e CA
Only if you are doing a three tiered hierarchy
> 3. No matter what environment you are in, install your issuing CA's as=20
> enterprise subordinate CA's, this is where your Active Directory integrat=
ion=20
> happens, based on the standalone subordinate CA.
I agree with issuing CAs being enterprise CAs. I have no idea what the=20
last part of the sentence means.

BTW, I cover a lot of this in my MSPress book. In fact a whole chapter=20
on implementation

>=20
> "Brian Komar [MVP]" wrote:
>=20
> > EricS@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> > > I have been trying to follow all of the best practices and recommenda=
tions=20
> > > for a W2K3 Enterprise CA solution. I have the Root installed, still =
online=20
> > > for right now, and have been trying to get the Intermediate CA that w=
ill be=20
> > > used for policies set up. I would like to follow Microsoft=C3=A2=E2=
=3D3F=AC=3D3Fs lead and use a=20
> > > 10 year, 2040 bit certificate. I have copied the Subordinate Certifi=
cation=20
> > > Authority template and increased it to 10 years, copied the new OID a=
nd=20
> > > description from Intermediate Certification Authority and used both o=
f them=20
> > > in the CAPolicy.inf file in C:\WINDOWS, but I keep getting 2 year=20
> > > certificates.
> > >=20
> > > After resolving, I will need to create Issuing CA certificates from t=
he=20
> > > Policy CA that are 5 years and 2048 bits.
> > >=20
> > > Thanks for ALL of the input.
> > >=20
> > You need to read the Best Practices whitepaper.... now....
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technolo=
g
> > ies/security/ws3pkibp.mspx
> >=20
> > 1. How do you intend to change an online CA to an offline CA?
> > 2> Look for two commands:
> > certutil -setreg CA\ValidityPeriodUnits =3D 10
> > certutil -setreg CA\ValidityPeriod =3D "Years"
> > 3. If you are following best practices, a three tiered CA hierarchy has=
=20
> > *standalone* CAs for the root and policy tier. (you have used an=20
> > enterprise root, which you can never disconnect from the network, as it=
=20
> > is a domain member... You do not use a certificate tempalte for the=20
> > subordinate CA unless you are creating a fourth tier (a tier subordinat=
e=20
> > to an enterprise CA).
> >=20

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