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Re: Can Microsoft be trusted? Karl Levinson, mvp 10-04-2005
Posted by Karl Levinson, mvp on October 4, 2005, 7:15 am
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I am pretty sure Microsoft would not be stupid enough to intentionally lie
about something they would easily be caught at. I suspect this was a
mistake or a misunderstanding.

I'm not so concerned about the pre-1999 issues cited, because we know MS
played hardball in some sketchy ways back then, but I think things have
improved somewhat.

Microsoft is a big company with a lot of employees. Most of these issues
appear to involve the MS PR / marketing department(s) specifically and not
all of Microsoft. As with any company, you can expect these departments to
spin things their way, and in some cases, a non-technical person may
mistakenly change or write something technical that is not technically
accurate.

In the end, this "lie" doesn't really matter. Microsoft already decided
what format they want to use. The real story here isn't the "lie." The
real story is, is this DVD format really inferior, and if so, why is
Microsoft pushing it onto the consumers?


> "Well, they've done it again. In prime-time. With malice aforethought. The
> duplicitous droogs, the denizens of deep-doodoo, I'm talking about Bill
> Gates' Microsoft: caught in a bald-faced lie about HD DVD-ROM discs. This
> is news? Not any more than the fact it's hot in Texas this summer or that
> Katrina caused a lot of damage. It is, after all, the Microsoft way:
> dishonesty in all things."
>
> http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/05/10/01/1548246.shtml?tid=29
>
> Imhotep



Posted by Imhotep on October 4, 2005, 8:11 pm
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Karl Levinson, mvp wrote:

> I am pretty sure Microsoft would not be stupid enough to intentionally lie
> about something they would easily be caught at. I suspect this was a
> mistake or a misunderstanding.

Well, the data definitely does not support you. Microsoft uses a well known
and time proven strategy: Mix a couple of truths in a soup of lies and hope
no one researches their formula. If they do, lie again and hope the MS
faithfull will defined them...

I *used* to be a MS faithful myself...

> I'm not so concerned about the pre-1999 issues cited, because we know MS
> played hardball in some sketchy ways back then, but I think things have
> improved somewhat.

Sorry, but I do not agree with "thing are improving". I see business as
usual from them. I see them lying/misleading even more now that they are
getting attacked by everyone...

> Microsoft is a big company with a lot of employees. Most of these issues
> appear to involve the MS PR / marketing department(s) specifically and not
> all of Microsoft. As with any company, you can expect these departments
> to spin things their way, and in some cases, a non-technical person may
> mistakenly change or write something technical that is not technically
> accurate.
>
> In the end, this "lie" doesn't really matter. Microsoft already decided
> what format they want to use. The real story here isn't the "lie." The
> real story is, is this DVD format really inferior, and if so, why is
> Microsoft pushing it onto the consumers?

I disagree. Picking the format is not, and should not be, a MS decision to
make. They are a software company. It is no more their decision to "pick"
the DVD format than it is Apples or Red Hat....

Imhotep

>
>> "Well, they've done it again. In prime-time. With malice aforethought.
>> The duplicitous droogs, the denizens of deep-doodoo, I'm talking about
>> Bill Gates' Microsoft: caught in a bald-faced lie about HD DVD-ROM discs.
>> This is news? Not any more than the fact it's hot in Texas this summer or
>> that Katrina caused a lot of damage. It is, after all, the Microsoft way:
>> dishonesty in all things."
>>
>> http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/05/10/01/1548246.shtml?tid=29
>>
>> Imhotep


Posted by N. Miller on October 5, 2005, 1:47 am
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:15:41 -0400, Karl Levinson, mvp wrote:

> In the end, this "lie" doesn't really matter. Microsoft already decided
> what format they want to use. The real story here isn't the "lie." The
> real story is, is this DVD format really inferior, and if so, why is
> Microsoft pushing it onto the consumers?

It may be inferior, or it may not be. It may be that MSFT is pushing it
because it puts MSFT in control of the use of the data. Or their partners.
That would be a bad thing, from the consumer's POV.

--
Norman
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~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
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