Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

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Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP Tom [Pepper] Willett 02-13-2008
Posted by Sandy Mann on February 14, 2008, 4:13 pm
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David,

By munging your address before the @ sign and not after it does that not
mean that Verizon.Net still get targeted by the spam/viruses/worms/whatever
even although it is undeliverable? I thought that it was better to munge
the address after the @ sign, (or both before and after), to prevent the ISP
being brought down with the volume of undelivered mail.

--


Sandy


>
>
> |
> | No! Only autists or people who didn't get the idea of the internet
> | as a peer 2 peer network post without a working/replyable address.
> | And only net terrorists who want to have their garbage dumped into
> | other peoples mailboxes abuse wrong/bouncing, sometimes even foreign
> | addresses.
> | See <http://www.google.de/search?q=spam+backscatter> why munging
> | is EVIL!
> |
> | Remember: display names are for humans, mail addresses for the
> | machines. And the latter use them literally^Wlitterally, in your
> | case!
> |
> | Stefan
>
> Based upon the standpoint of personal security, bot harvesting of email
> addresses and
> spammers deliberately harvesting email addresses and most important
> Internet worms that
> harvest email addresses from Usent, munging is a must. This is a reality
> of the situation.
>
> Sorry, you are wrong !
>
> I will not reply again as there is no discussion in this matter. Munging
> is a requirement
> of personal security based upon the reality of Internet threats.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>
>



Posted by Tom [Pepper] Willett on February 14, 2008, 4:55 pm
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Verizon will still get targeted, even though the message will bounce. It
still a hit on their servers.

: David,
:
: By munging your address before the @ sign and not after it does that not
: mean that Verizon.Net still get targeted by the
spam/viruses/worms/whatever
: even although it is undeliverable? I thought that it was better to munge
: the address after the @ sign, (or both before and after), to prevent the
ISP
: being brought down with the volume of undelivered mail.
:
: --
:
:
: Sandy
:
:
: >
: >
: > |
: > | No! Only autists or people who didn't get the idea of the internet
: > | as a peer 2 peer network post without a working/replyable address.
: > | And only net terrorists who want to have their garbage dumped into
: > | other peoples mailboxes abuse wrong/bouncing, sometimes even foreign
: > | addresses.
: > | See <http://www.google.de/search?q=spam+backscatter> why munging
: > | is EVIL!
: > |
: > | Remember: display names are for humans, mail addresses for the
: > | machines. And the latter use them literally^Wlitterally, in your
: > | case!
: > |
: > | Stefan
: >
: > Based upon the standpoint of personal security, bot harvesting of email
: > addresses and
: > spammers deliberately harvesting email addresses and most important
: > Internet worms that
: > harvest email addresses from Usent, munging is a must. This is a
reality
: > of the situation.
: >
: > Sorry, you are wrong !
: >
: > I will not reply again as there is no discussion in this matter.
Munging
: > is a requirement
: > of personal security based upon the reality of Internet threats.
: >
: > --
: > Dave
: > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
: > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
: >
: >
: >
:
:



Posted by David H. Lipman on February 14, 2008, 4:59 pm
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| David,
|
| By munging your address before the @ sign and not after it does that not
| mean that Verizon.Net still get targeted by the spam/viruses/worms/whatever
| even although it is undeliverable? I thought that it was better to munge
| the address after the @ sign, (or both before and after), to prevent the ISP
| being brought down with the volume of undelivered mail.
|

I checked with Verizon and they have no problem with the "failed mail" issue of
munging the
account name vs. the Domain name.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



Posted by David H. Lipman on February 15, 2008, 5:56 pm
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|
| Both is bad, evil and nasty.
|
| If you don't want to receive mail at an address used for posting,
| Thus anybody will see in an instant that this address is invalid!
| No guess. And no bounces and backscatter too!
|
| Or use a VALID address of yours acting as a black hole, but provide
| a valid Reply-To:, which every RFC-compliant NUA/MUA prefers.
|
| Stefan

You are both naive and misinformed on the reality of the situation.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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