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POSSIBLE HACK...PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!
POSSIBLE HACK...PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!

POSSIBLE HACK...PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!

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POSSIBLE HACK...PLEASE, PLEASE HELP! Annie 07-20-2008
Posted by PA Bear [MS MVP] on July 22, 2008, 2:11 pm
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1. Please get your dates right.

2. This is a not a Win9x-specific newsgroup. If you decide to post
Win9x-specific information, please state that fact in your posts, otherwise
you're just confusing matters further.

Thanks.

Dan wrote:
> I think I see the source of the confusion now. Support for free AVG 7.5
> currently ends in August 2007 but paid AVG 7.5 will allow you support
> until
> December of 2007...
<snip>


Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= on July 22, 2008, 8:01 pm
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Whoops. Sorry about that Robear. Thanks for letting me know. It can indeed
get confusing when I am going back and forth from the 98 general newsgroup
and the public security newsgroup. You are indeed right and I was referring
to Windows 98 Second Edition with support for free AVG 7.5 ending in August
2008 and with support for AVG 7.5 for users who bought AVG 7.5 ending at the
end of December 2008. I am glad you caught my huge mistake. Thank you.
<smile and should I say grin and bear it> You are right and great, imo for
what it is worth.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> 1. Please get your dates right.
>
> 2. This is a not a Win9x-specific newsgroup. If you decide to post
> Win9x-specific information, please state that fact in your posts, otherwise
> you're just confusing matters further.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dan wrote:
> > I think I see the source of the confusion now. Support for free AVG 7.5
> > currently ends in August 2007 but paid AVG 7.5 will allow you support
> > until
> > December of 2007...
> <snip>
>
>

Posted by Shenan Stanley on July 21, 2008, 12:07 pm
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Dan wrote:
> Sorry, Shenan. I disagree. AVG Free 7.5 antivirus is a good
> program. Unfortunately with Free AVG 8, the company apparently
> broke many of their own rules and I cannot suggest AVG anymore
> unless a user is running the legacy version with AVG 7.5 in which
> support supposedly is ending in August.
>
> The reason is that AVG 8 has too many false positives on both my
> system and my dad's machine when we tried it on XP Professional for
> me and XP Home for him. I do not like to disagree with an MVP and
> please do not jump down my throat and forgive me for stating my
> opinion. I am not overly happy with Avast either if the user is
> using a 9x machine (such as Windows 98 Second Edition) but if the
> machine is using a more modern operating system such as Windows XP
> then I would suggest Microsoft's antivirus of Windows Live One Care
> because I have not had issues with it so far except the stupid red
> notification it gives me because I do not enable automatic updates
> since I enjoy reading about every security update.

No worries, Dan.

I appreciate opinions - especially when presented with supporting evidence
and sound reasoning. After all - how else would any of us learn anything
about the hundreds upon hundreds of different products out there? While I
admittedly try all I can - there are only so many hours in a day and so many
things I can do to 'try' something before I move on to something else.

I had noticed posts about AVG 7.5 popping up - and not having had trouble
with the AVG 8.0 install *beyond* what I have noted in many posts (how to
get rid of the link scanner and not to install the email scanner) - I
couldn't really fathom why it (7.5) was still popping up. Your post has
brought some insight into this and something for me to look into further.
Thanks!

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= on July 21, 2008, 2:43 pm
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You are most welcome. I am thankfully posting in Windows 98 Second Edition
because I went ahead and removed the extra memory from the computer and went
from 2 gigabytes back to 512 megabytes. I am doing this because I sincerely
believe in the safeness of the 9x source code with the proper security
protocol. Please see the biometrics debate back and forth between me, Steve
Riley and another Daniel and others if you are so interested in our opinions.
Chris Quirke, MVP was the one who really set me on the proper track of the
internal safety and external security approach.

Remember, if the foundation is built upon sand then no matter how powerful
the external foundation is then the foundation (kernel) will indeed crumble.
I read that this will be an issue within 20 years but I think it has come to
a head today with AVG 7.5 which I like and use on 98 Second Edition ending
support in August according to Robear and Mozilla Firefox 2.x ending support
for Windows 98 Second Edition in December. You must remember that Mozilla
Firefox provides 256 AES cipher strength within 98 Second Edition compared to
Internet Explorer which will only give you that cipher strength with Windows
Vista but not XP Professional or Home and I do not know about if it will give
you that strength with the server editions since I have not followed that
software.

Please see the secunia.com website about how vulnerabilities line up with
Windows 98 Second Edition compared to XP Home and Professional and you will
get an idea about my point. I actually now am starting to prefer Windows
2000 Professional to XP because it has more of the 98 Second Edition look and
feel which I enjoy and again less services so there is less surface area to
attack.

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> > Sorry, Shenan. I disagree. AVG Free 7.5 antivirus is a good
> > program. Unfortunately with Free AVG 8, the company apparently
> > broke many of their own rules and I cannot suggest AVG anymore
> > unless a user is running the legacy version with AVG 7.5 in which
> > support supposedly is ending in August.
> >
> > The reason is that AVG 8 has too many false positives on both my
> > system and my dad's machine when we tried it on XP Professional for
> > me and XP Home for him. I do not like to disagree with an MVP and
> > please do not jump down my throat and forgive me for stating my
> > opinion. I am not overly happy with Avast either if the user is
> > using a 9x machine (such as Windows 98 Second Edition) but if the
> > machine is using a more modern operating system such as Windows XP
> > then I would suggest Microsoft's antivirus of Windows Live One Care
> > because I have not had issues with it so far except the stupid red
> > notification it gives me because I do not enable automatic updates
> > since I enjoy reading about every security update.
>
> No worries, Dan.
>
> I appreciate opinions - especially when presented with supporting evidence
> and sound reasoning. After all - how else would any of us learn anything
> about the hundreds upon hundreds of different products out there? While I
> admittedly try all I can - there are only so many hours in a day and so many
> things I can do to 'try' something before I move on to something else.
>
> I had noticed posts about AVG 7.5 popping up - and not having had trouble
> with the AVG 8.0 install *beyond* what I have noted in many posts (how to
> get rid of the link scanner and not to install the email scanner) - I
> couldn't really fathom why it (7.5) was still popping up. Your post has
> brought some insight into this and something for me to look into further.
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

Posted by Root Kit on July 23, 2008, 6:08 am
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:43:05 -0700, Dan

>You are most welcome. I am thankfully posting in Windows 98 Second Edition
>because I went ahead and removed the extra memory from the computer and went
>from 2 gigabytes back to 512 megabytes.

Oh, you're using W98SE. Never mentioned that before.... How is this
related to Annie's problem?

>I am doing this because I sincerely believe in the safeness of the 9x source
code

Some people believe in horoscopes.

>with the proper security protocol.

What security protocol would that be, if one may ask?

> Chris Quirke, MVP was the one who really set me on the proper track of the
>internal safety and external security approach.

You have generally too high thoughts about MVP's. Why is it, titles
seem to mean a lot to you?

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