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POSSIBLE HACK...PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!
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POSSIBLE HACK...PLEASE, PLEASE HELP! Annie 07-20-2008
Posted by Tom [Pepper] Willett on July 21, 2008, 9:23 am
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Support for AVG 7.5 doesn't end until December, not August.
: Sorry, Shenan. I disagree. AVG Free 7.5 antivirus is a good program.
: Unfortunately with Free AVG 8, the company apparently broke many of their
own
: rules and I cannot suggest AVG anymore unless a user is running the legacy
: version with AVG 7.5 in which support supposedly is ending in August.
:
: The reason is that AVG 8 has too many false positives on both my system
and
: my dad's machine when we tried it on XP Professional for me and XP Home
for
: him. I do not like to disagree with an MVP and please do not jump down my
: throat and forgive me for stating my opinion. I am not overly happy with
: Avast either if the user is using a 9x machine (such as Windows 98 Second
: Edition) but if the machine is using a more modern operating system such
as
: Windows XP then I would suggest Microsoft's antivirus of Windows Live One
: Care because I have not had issues with it so far except the stupid red
: notification it gives me because I do not enable automatic updates since I
: enjoy reading about every security update.
:
: "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
:
: > Annie wrote:
: > > Windows firewall and Zone Alarm firewall. Which one do you
: > > recommend I keep on?
: >
: > Given that you are asking - the Windows Firewall will be more than
: > sufficient and easier to use and keep updated.
: >
: > My Suggestion: Uninstall Zone Alarm completely and just utilize the
built in
: > Windows XP Firewall and an updated antivirus application. Occassionally
run
: > an AntiSpyware application to see if you have been infested with
anything
: > and/or purchase one. SuperAntiSpyware is a good free/for pay one. AVG
: > AntiVirus is a good Free AV application (8.0).
: >
: > --
: > Shenan Stanley
: > MS-MVP
: > --
: > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
: >
: >
: >



Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= on July 21, 2008, 9:59 am
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Thanks Tom for the correction. AVG must have extended the deadline. It will
be interesting as I have noted in the Windows 98 general newsgroup and MEB
and I have talked about this that Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.x is set to expire in
December of 2008. Will the 10+ year anniversary of Windows 98 and almost the
10 year anniversary of Windows 98 Second Edition really end up putting the
operating system as truly dead or will there be new life somehow after that.
I am indeed petitioning Mozilla to continue to support Windows 98 Second
Edition with Mozilla Firefox 2 or at least update it to 2.5 and continue to
support legacy users such as myself for good safety reasons.

BTW, Tom have you seen the original Matrix movie and what about the 1980's
Sneakers movie with Robert Redford and how about It's a Wonderful Life with
Jimmy Stewart and Enemy of the State and The Game. These movies are just a
few that really make me think and reflect about life. I am one of those
movie goers who after seeing a really good movie will watch all the credits.
I will try and ask the movie personnel if there is an added extra at the end
because spending around $10 nowadays to see a new release is a real treat for
me. Unfortunately, I have been very disappointed with Hollywood recently
because I think the overall thought and intelligence in movies and the
quality is going way downhill.

"Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:

> Support for AVG 7.5 doesn't end until December, not August.
> : Sorry, Shenan. I disagree. AVG Free 7.5 antivirus is a good program.
> : Unfortunately with Free AVG 8, the company apparently broke many of their
> own
> : rules and I cannot suggest AVG anymore unless a user is running the legacy
> : version with AVG 7.5 in which support supposedly is ending in August.
> :
> : The reason is that AVG 8 has too many false positives on both my system
> and
> : my dad's machine when we tried it on XP Professional for me and XP Home
> for
> : him. I do not like to disagree with an MVP and please do not jump down my
> : throat and forgive me for stating my opinion. I am not overly happy with
> : Avast either if the user is using a 9x machine (such as Windows 98 Second
> : Edition) but if the machine is using a more modern operating system such
> as
> : Windows XP then I would suggest Microsoft's antivirus of Windows Live One
> : Care because I have not had issues with it so far except the stupid red
> : notification it gives me because I do not enable automatic updates since I
> : enjoy reading about every security update.
> :
> : "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
> :
> : > Annie wrote:
> : > > Windows firewall and Zone Alarm firewall. Which one do you
> : > > recommend I keep on?
> : >
> : > Given that you are asking - the Windows Firewall will be more than
> : > sufficient and easier to use and keep updated.
> : >
> : > My Suggestion: Uninstall Zone Alarm completely and just utilize the
> built in
> : > Windows XP Firewall and an updated antivirus application. Occassionally
> run
> : > an AntiSpyware application to see if you have been infested with
> anything
> : > and/or purchase one. SuperAntiSpyware is a good free/for pay one. AVG
> : > AntiVirus is a good Free AV application (8.0).
> : >
> : > --
> : > Shenan Stanley
> : > MS-MVP
> : > --
> : > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> : > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> : >
> : >
> : >
>
>
>

Posted by Root Kit on July 23, 2008, 4:19 am
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:59:02 -0700, Dan

>BTW, Tom have you seen the original Matrix movie and what about the 1980's
>Sneakers movie with Robert Redford and how about It's a Wonderful Life with
>Jimmy Stewart and Enemy of the State and The Game. These movies are just a
>few that really make me think and reflect about life. I am one of those
>movie goers who after seeing a really good movie will watch all the credits.
>I will try and ask the movie personnel if there is an added extra at the end
>because spending around $10 nowadays to see a new release is a real treat for
>me. Unfortunately, I have been very disappointed with Hollywood recently
>because I think the overall thought and intelligence in movies and the
>quality is going way downhill.

Please keep your off topic private chit chat out of a security related
forum.

Posted by PA Bear [MS MVP] on July 21, 2008, 11:03 am
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Support for AVG v7.5 in Win9x ends in August.

Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> Support for AVG 7.5 doesn't end until December, not August.
>> Sorry, Shenan. I disagree. AVG Free 7.5 antivirus is a good program.
>> Unfortunately with Free AVG 8, the company apparently broke many of their
>> own rules and I cannot suggest AVG anymore unless a user is running the
>> legacy version with AVG 7.5 in which support supposedly is ending in
>> August.
>>
>> The reason is that AVG 8 has too many false positives on both my system
>> and
>> my dad's machine when we tried it on XP Professional for me and XP Home
>> for
>> him. I do not like to disagree with an MVP and please do not jump down
>> my
>> throat and forgive me for stating my opinion. I am not overly happy with
>> Avast either if the user is using a 9x machine (such as Windows 98 Second
>> Edition) but if the machine is using a more modern operating system such
>> as
>> Windows XP then I would suggest Microsoft's antivirus of Windows Live One
>> Care because I have not had issues with it so far except the stupid red
>> notification it gives me because I do not enable automatic updates since
>> I
>> enjoy reading about every security update.
>>
>> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>>
>>> Annie wrote:
>>>> Windows firewall and Zone Alarm firewall. Which one do you
>>>> recommend I keep on?
>>>
>>> Given that you are asking - the Windows Firewall will be more than
>>> sufficient and easier to use and keep updated.
>>>
>>> My Suggestion: Uninstall Zone Alarm completely and just utilize the
>>> built
>>> in Windows XP Firewall and an updated antivirus application.
>>> Occassionally run an AntiSpyware application to see if you have been
>>> infested with anything and/or purchase one. SuperAntiSpyware is a good
>>> free/for pay one. AVG AntiVirus is a good Free AV application (8.0).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shenan Stanley
>>> MS-MVP
>>> --
>>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= on July 22, 2008, 7:24 am
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I think I see the source of the confusion now. Support for free AVG 7.5
currently ends in August 2007 but paid AVG 7.5 will allow you support until
December of 2007. Anyway, this information was lifted from the lockergnome
website via searching about AVG 7.5 in the Google Search Engine.

As far as the stability concerns I totally disagree with the assessment
given below about AVG 8 being stable because it is not stable in my opinion
if it gives it users too many false positives. Unfortunately, this is a
worrying trend with anti virus programs recently and I am not sure who is to
blame. Adaware SE suffered from too many false positives in my opinion.
Even Avast which is an alternative for Windows 98 Second Edition users like
myself has issues with being too overly sensitive like when it claimed
yahoo.com was infected when the website was fine.
I will probably buy AVG 7.5 just to have the support provided for it through
December 31, 2007 and so that still makes me hit a brick wall at the end of
the year with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.x and now AVG 7.5 paid version ending
support by the end of the year. As I have mentioned in the Microsoft Windows
98 General Newsgroup, the end of 2007 may indeed be another defining year
just like July 11, 2006 was when Microsoft ended safety and security updates
for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows Millennium (yuk). I
currently like and am using the trial of Windows Live One Care and if anyone
else really likes an anti virus program that does not give false positives
then please let this newsgroup know.

However, people can still can a safe browsing and Internet Experience using
the proper programs and only using Internet Explorer in Windows 98 Second
Edition for Windows Updates. I am now proving this by using Windows 98
Second Edition and I currently am posting in the newsgroup via Hotmail
(LiveMail) within Mozilla Firefox while using Windows 98 Second Edition so
there I am trying to prove to all the security guys and professionals about
how safe 98 Second Edition is by supposedly putting my system at risk
although when my system was hacked via VPN from the APS Network in the middle
of 2007 the Windows 98 Second Edition side suffered no ill effects even when
connecting it via VPN at the same time. I have since removed the VPN access
from Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition for logical reasons of course.

There was an attempt by a 98 Guy to break up Internet Explorer patches for
Windows 2000 to apply to Windows 98 Second Edition and I tried it as well but
came to the conclusion it was not worth the potential *.dll hell to have a
supposedly safer and more secure Internet Explorer when the likely
alternative of having 256 bit AES cipher strength with Mozilla Firefox
2.0.0.x in Windows 98 Second Edition was so appealing as well as not having
to deal with ActiveX Technologies that unfortunately while a great tool to
auto-update components is being taken advantage of by malicious users to try
and break the free will of computer users everywhere.

----------Here is the information provided and credit to the right
people---------

Monday, July 14th, 2008
by Ron Schenone

Reader DougCuk has posted a comment in which he states that AVG has a new
end date for support of AVG 7.5 free edition. He states that:

For anyone still hanging on to AVG Free v7.5 the end date has now been
changed - it is now August 31st. But as most sources always stated the Paid
For version will continue until December 31st.

AVG Free v8 now seems pretty stable - so only the diehard Windows 98
users are left to check out the alternative products.

From the AVG Free Forum
http://freeforum.avg.com/read.php?2,136697
IMPORTANT UPDATE
AVG 7.5 Free - Support ends 31st AUGUST 2008
Posted by: michaelhd - AVG Team (IP Logged)
Date: July 9, 2008 04:07PM

Support for AVG 7.5 Free Edition is planned to end on 31st August 2008.
No more virus updates are planned for after that date.
Note that no more ‘program’ updates are due!
Only virus updates will continue until the end date.
AVG 7.5 Paid version will be supported until 31/12/08.

Hopefully this will be the last notice we will be receiving from AVG. But
who knows. They have changed the end date so much, it is hard to really know
that the August 31, 2008 will hold true.

Comments welcome.

Thanks DougCuk.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Support for AVG v7.5 in Win9x ends in August.
>
> Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> > Support for AVG 7.5 doesn't end until December, not August.
> >> Sorry, Shenan. I disagree. AVG Free 7.5 antivirus is a good program.
> >> Unfortunately with Free AVG 8, the company apparently broke many of their
> >> own rules and I cannot suggest AVG anymore unless a user is running the
> >> legacy version with AVG 7.5 in which support supposedly is ending in
> >> August.
> >>
> >> The reason is that AVG 8 has too many false positives on both my system
> >> and
> >> my dad's machine when we tried it on XP Professional for me and XP Home
> >> for
> >> him. I do not like to disagree with an MVP and please do not jump down
> >> my
> >> throat and forgive me for stating my opinion. I am not overly happy with
> >> Avast either if the user is using a 9x machine (such as Windows 98 Second
> >> Edition) but if the machine is using a more modern operating system such
> >> as
> >> Windows XP then I would suggest Microsoft's antivirus of Windows Live One
> >> Care because I have not had issues with it so far except the stupid red
> >> notification it gives me because I do not enable automatic updates since
> >> I
> >> enjoy reading about every security update.
> >>
> >> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Annie wrote:
> >>>> Windows firewall and Zone Alarm firewall. Which one do you
> >>>> recommend I keep on?
> >>>
> >>> Given that you are asking - the Windows Firewall will be more than
> >>> sufficient and easier to use and keep updated.
> >>>
> >>> My Suggestion: Uninstall Zone Alarm completely and just utilize the
> >>> built
> >>> in Windows XP Firewall and an updated antivirus application.
> >>> Occassionally run an AntiSpyware application to see if you have been
> >>> infested with anything and/or purchase one. SuperAntiSpyware is a good
> >>> free/for pay one. AVG AntiVirus is a good Free AV application (8.0).
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Shenan Stanley
> >>> MS-MVP
> >>> --
> >>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> >>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>

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