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"Microsoft Update" offers 898461 for XP SP3 Stefan Kanthak 05-27-2008
Posted by Stefan Kanthak on May 27, 2008, 3:35 pm
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Hi @ll,

"Microsoft Update" just offered the update 898461 for my (german)
XP SP3 system.
According to MSKB 946480 this update has been included in SP3; but
apparently this is wrong!

Unfortunately this patch REALLY gets installed and writes OUTDATED
files to my system:

| C:\>dir %windir%\System32\Preinstall\WinSE\wxp_x86_0407_v1
| Datenträger in Laufwerk C: ist WINDOWS
| Volumeseriennummer: 2C36-0AF4
|
| Verzeichnis von C:\WINDOWS\System32\Preinstall\WinSE\wxp_x86_0407_v1
|
| 27.05.2008 20:38 <DIR> .
| 27.05.2008 20:38 <DIR> ..
| 25.02.2005 05:34 15.584 spmsg.dll.ref
| 25.02.2005 05:34 213.216 spuninst.exe.ref
| 25.02.2005 05:34 22.752 spupdsvc.exe.ref
| 25.02.2005 05:34 22.240 spcustom.dll.ref
| 25.02.2005 05:34 727.776 update.exe.ref
| 25.02.2005 05:34 378.080 updspapi.dll.ref
| 6 Datei(en) 1.379.648 Bytes
| 2 Verzeichnis(se), 10.514.202.624 Bytes frei
|
| C:\>filever %windir%\System32\Preinstall\WinSE\wxp_x86_0407_v1
| c:\windows\system32\preinstall\winse\wxp_x86_0407_v1\*.*
| ----- W32i DLL DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 15,584 02-25-2005 spmsg.dll.ref
| ----- W32i APP DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 213,216 02-25-2005 spuninst.exe.ref
| ----- W32i APP ENU 6.1.22.4 shp 22,752 02-25-2005 spupdsvc.exe.ref
| ----- W32i APP ENU 6.1.22.4 shp 22,240 02-25-2005 spcustom.dll.ref
| ----- W32i APP DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 727,776 02-25-2005 update.exe.ref
| ----- W32i DLL DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 378,080 02-25-2005 updspapi.dll.ref

The current version of all these files, as delivered with XP SP3 for
example, are but 6.3.13.0, their timestamps are 2007-08-10 20:4[45]!

WHEN WILL MICROSOFT START TO LIVE TRUSTWORTHY COMPUTING?

not amused
Stefan Kanthak


Posted by PA Bear [MS MVP] on May 27, 2008, 9:38 pm
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Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.

. US:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

. CA:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131

. UK:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131

. AU:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131

. Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3

WinXP-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Stefan Kanthak wrote:
> Hi @ll,
>
> "Microsoft Update" just offered the update 898461 for my (german)
> XP SP3 system.
> According to MSKB 946480 this update has been included in SP3; but
> apparently this is wrong!
>
> Unfortunately this patch REALLY gets installed and writes OUTDATED
> files to my system:
>
>> C:\>dir %windir%\System32\Preinstall\WinSE\wxp_x86_0407_v1
>> Datenträger in Laufwerk C: ist WINDOWS
>> Volumeseriennummer: 2C36-0AF4
>>
>> Verzeichnis von C:\WINDOWS\System32\Preinstall\WinSE\wxp_x86_0407_v1
>>
>> 27.05.2008 20:38 <DIR> .
>> 27.05.2008 20:38 <DIR> ..
>> 25.02.2005 05:34 15.584 spmsg.dll.ref
>> 25.02.2005 05:34 213.216 spuninst.exe.ref
>> 25.02.2005 05:34 22.752 spupdsvc.exe.ref
>> 25.02.2005 05:34 22.240 spcustom.dll.ref
>> 25.02.2005 05:34 727.776 update.exe.ref
>> 25.02.2005 05:34 378.080 updspapi.dll.ref
>> 6 Datei(en) 1.379.648 Bytes
>> 2 Verzeichnis(se), 10.514.202.624 Bytes frei
>>
>> C:\>filever %windir%\System32\Preinstall\WinSE\wxp_x86_0407_v1
>> c:\windows\system32\preinstall\winse\wxp_x86_0407_v1\*.*
>> ----- W32i DLL DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 15,584 02-25-2005
>> spmsg.dll.ref
>> ----- W32i APP DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 213,216 02-25-2005
>> spuninst.exe.ref
>> ----- W32i APP ENU 6.1.22.4 shp 22,752 02-25-2005
>> spupdsvc.exe.ref
>> ----- W32i APP ENU 6.1.22.4 shp 22,240 02-25-2005
>> spcustom.dll.ref
>> ----- W32i APP DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 727,776 02-25-2005
>> update.exe.ref
>> ----- W32i DLL DEU 6.1.22.4 shp 378,080 02-25-2005
>> updspapi.dll.ref
>
> The current version of all these files, as delivered with XP SP3 for
> example, are but 6.3.13.0, their timestamps are 2007-08-10 20:4[45]!
>
> WHEN WILL MICROSOFT START TO LIVE TRUSTWORTHY COMPUTING?
>
> not amused
> Stefan Kanthak


Posted by Stefan Kanthak on May 28, 2008, 4:03 pm
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> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's neither an installation (except I wanted the errors in MSKB 946480
to be the main problem) nor compatibility problem!
SP3 installed without problem, and the system as well as all the
applications run.

> Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
> e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.

> . Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
> Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
>
> WinXP-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

It's also no general problem with XP!

The problem is: Why does "Microsoft Update" (I suspect plain "Windows
Update will too) offer an update with OUTDATED files?

The WindowsXP-KB898461-x86-%LCID%.exe available from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=50C334E1-9A67-4B99-A65A-069B79267856&displaylang=en
too has not been updated for XP SP3.

As counter example: 892130 gets updated on regular basis.

Apparently nobody at MSFT really cares about trustworthy computing.

Stefan

PS: Your signature is WAY to long! 4 lines of up to 80 characters are
the acceptable maximum.


Posted by Tom [Pepper] Willett on May 28, 2008, 5:43 pm
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Net Nanny alert!

:
: PS: Your signature is WAY to long! 4 lines of up to 80 characters are
: the acceptable maximum.
:



Posted by PA Bear [MS MVP] on May 28, 2008, 5:50 pm
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>> "Microsoft Update" just offered the update 898461 for my (german)
>> XP SP3 system.
>> According to MSKB 946480 this update has been included in SP3; but
>> apparently this is wrong!
>>
>> Unfortunately this patch REALLY gets installed and writes OUTDATED
>> files to my system...

Sure sounds like a compatibility problem to me, Stefan!

> PS: Your signature is WAY to long! 4 lines of up to 80 characters are
> the acceptable maximum.

Who asked you? Who says there's a limit?

PS: *You* neglected to quote my entire post, which is customary in this
newsgroup.

Have a WONDERFUL day!

<plonk>


Stefan Kanthak wrote:
>
>> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> It's neither an installation (except I wanted the errors in MSKB 946480
> to be the main problem) nor compatibility problem!
> SP3 installed without problem, and the system as well as all the
> applications run.
>
>> Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
>> e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.
>
>> . Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 |
>> select
>> Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
>>
>> WinXP-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>
> It's also no general problem with XP!
>
> The problem is: Why does "Microsoft Update" (I suspect plain "Windows
> Update will too) offer an update with OUTDATED files?
>
> The WindowsXP-KB898461-x86-%LCID%.exe available from
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=50C334E1-9A67-4B99-A65A-069B79267856&displaylang=en
> too has not been updated for XP SP3.
>
> As counter example: 892130 gets updated on regular basis.
>
> Apparently nobody at MSFT really cares about trustworthy computing.
>
> Stefan
>
> PS: Your signature is WAY to long! 4 lines of up to 80 characters are
> the acceptable maximum.


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