MS-CHAP V2 and server certs

MS-CHAP V2 and server certs

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MS-CHAP V2 and server certs tweaked540@gmail.com 11-20-2006
Posted by tweaked540@gmail.com on November 20, 2006, 9:23 am
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I have a question about IAS, PEAP
MS-CHAP V2, and wireless. I am using MS-CHAP V2 to authenticate PDAs
on our wireless network. Because we are using MS-CHAP V2, we are using

AD credentials to authenticate the clients. Everywhere I have read it
states that we have to install the server certificate onto the device.
I have found a loop hole though. Both on the wireless PDA and laptops,

we can choose not to validate the server certificate. I can still
authenticate to the IAS server (wireless) but I have not installed the
server cert onto the device (because I have unchecked the validate
server checkbox both in zero config and the wireless application).
This is my question, if we don't validate the server and if we don't
have the server cert, won't the transmission of the user account and
password be in clear text? Is there a way on the IAS server that we
have to force the clients to have the server cert or they wont be
authenticated?

Thanks,
Peter Kim


Posted by S. Pidgorny on November 21, 2006, 4:40 am
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No, it won't. The decision not to validate the server certificate is kinda
self-explanatory: you risk submitting your credentials to untrusted
(potentially malicious) access control server.

--
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-

>I have a question about IAS, PEAP
> MS-CHAP V2, and wireless. I am using MS-CHAP V2 to authenticate PDAs
> on our wireless network. Because we are using MS-CHAP V2, we are using
>
> AD credentials to authenticate the clients. Everywhere I have read it
> states that we have to install the server certificate onto the device.
> I have found a loop hole though. Both on the wireless PDA and laptops,
>
> we can choose not to validate the server certificate. I can still
> authenticate to the IAS server (wireless) but I have not installed the
> server cert onto the device (because I have unchecked the validate
> server checkbox both in zero config and the wireless application).
> This is my question, if we don't validate the server and if we don't
> have the server cert, won't the transmission of the user account and
> password be in clear text? Is there a way on the IAS server that we
> have to force the clients to have the server cert or they wont be
> authenticated?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter Kim
>



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