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How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on workstations?
How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on workstations?

How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on workstations?

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How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on workstations? Spin 08-29-2008
Posted by Spin on August 29, 2008, 11:32 pm
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Gurus,

How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on
workstations? Typically the end-users do run with "administrative"
privileges, but a local admin account is needed to access a machine offline.
So how is this account typically named (i.e. renamed) and password secured
(i.e., complex and only a few people know it)? Then you have the problem of
having to change this password on every workstation if a member of the IT
staff leaves. Just looking for quick thoughts here, no long treatise on the
topic is necessary!

--
Spin


Posted by Spin on August 29, 2008, 11:34 pm
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I meant to say "Typically the end-users don't run with "administrative"
privileges"


Posted by Meinolf Weber on August 30, 2008, 2:31 am
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Hello Spin,

Also domain users can logon if they are not connected to the domain with
cached credentials, there is only a onetime domain login needed before.

If you really have the need to make your users local admins use Restricted
groups with a GPO:
http://www.frickelsoft.net/blog/?p=13

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> Gurus,
>
> How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on
> workstations? Typically the end-users do run with "administrative"
> privileges, but a local admin account is needed to access a machine
> offline. So how is this account typically named (i.e. renamed) and
> password secured (i.e., complex and only a few people know it)? Then
> you have the problem of having to change this password on every
> workstation if a member of the IT staff leaves. Just looking for
> quick thoughts here, no long treatise on the topic is necessary!
>



Posted by =?Utf-8?B?QW50ZWF1cw==?= on August 30, 2008, 3:34 am
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Likewise we make users local admins, having found limited-user working to
cause too many problems. We maintain the local Administrator password with a
small program run from the logon-script. This arrangement has the advantage
that if an installer forgets to set a password, the standardised one will be
set at next logon.

The key thing is to make sure users don't get added to the Domain Admins
group. I've seen sites that are like this, and it leaves the whole network
open to attack from any one compromised computer.

> > How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on
> > workstations? Typically the end-users do run with "administrative"
> > privileges, but a local admin account is needed to access a machine
> > offline. So how is this account typically named (i.e. renamed) and
> > password secured (i.e., complex and only a few people know it)? Then
> > you have the problem of having to change this password on every
> > workstation if a member of the IT staff leaves. Just looking for
> > quick thoughts here, no long treatise on the topic is necessary!


Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on August 31, 2008, 9:49 am
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> Likewise we make users local admins, having found limited-user working to
> cause too many problems. We maintain the local Administrator password with
> a
> small program run from the logon-script. This arrangement has the
> advantage
> that if an installer forgets to set a password, the standardised one will
> be
> set at next logon.
>
> The key thing is to make sure users don't get added to the Domain Admins
> group. I've seen sites that are like this, and it leaves the whole network
> open to attack from any one compromised computer.
>
>> > How does your organizations manage the local administrator account on
>> > workstations? Typically the end-users do run with "administrative"
>> > privileges, but a local admin account is needed to access a machine
>> > offline. So how is this account typically named (i.e. renamed) and
>> > password secured (i.e., complex and only a few people know it)? Then
>> > you have the problem of having to change this password on every
>> > workstation if a member of the IT staff leaves. Just looking for
>> > quick thoughts here, no long treatise on the topic is necessary!
>

I could argue that your entire client infrastructure is open to high risk,
not just of attack/compromise but perhaps more significantly for violation
of information privacy. Consider, any account (you say they are admins)
can get the local admin password from the program used to set that pwd.
It might take a little effort, but I would bet that you cannot prevent that.
So, any accont can obtain a password valid for admin access on any of
the client systems. That basically means that anything stored on any of
those systems is or can be made available. As for network stored data
it would only by a keylogger away.

Roger
PS We have found that users can function without problem as non-admin.




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