How did Google Know my System ws infected?

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How did Google Know my System ws infected? C.Wilder 02-02-2007
Posted by Shenan Stanley on February 2, 2007, 7:07 pm
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C.Wilder wrote:
> I had been wondering how Google knew my System was infected from
> just trying to log on?

PA Bear wrote:
> Please see this page http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm then post back
> to this thread with the information we'd need to be able to assist
> you properly.

C. Wilder wrote:
> Only if you go here and get back to *me*
>
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> The difference I see...
> PA Bear (and many of the rest) were left to figure out what you
> even meant.
>
> I had no trouble following that PA Bear did not understand what you
> were posting and thus directed you to a place where you might learn
> how to post a question on a newsgroup where 99.9999999% of the
> participants cannot see your machine, cannot know what you did,
> cannot do much without you providing necessary/complete
> information.
> Sure - PA Bear 'top-posted' - I bottom posted and I made the thread
> look organized.
> Should *I* complain you did not do the same?
> I think not.
>
> Syntax vs. lack of information.
> I seldom care about the former, but a lack of information leaves
> little to go on.
>
> Not to mention, taking your post as written...
> You already figured out what the issue was...
> Have you been wondering or had you been wondering and figured it
> all out? heh *grin*

C.Wilder wrote:
> I am sorry if I was to vague. I can understand an answer that says
> "You are to vague". Now I am left to sift through rules that are
> not consistant with 99.9999% of the rest of the *regulars* and wonder what
> the problem
> is?
> I did not find my question all that confusing and after a review I
> still see it the same way. Unless *no one* is aware that Google can
> detect infected systems.
>
> I did not see any need for 99.9999% to *see* my machine as I
> already stated if *was* infected.
>
> Thus the question. "How did Google know my System w(a)s infected."
>
> Did I miss anyting?

Yes.
Welcome to MICROSOFT.public.security.
Your questions about a Google product or service should be directed towards
Google and their support.

If you had asked your question in a Google support
forum/channel/newsgroup/direct to Google tech support - maybe it would not
need as many details.

Google what?
Google - as in www.google.com?
A Google service as in http://www.gmail.com or http://groups.google.com?
A Google provided application like Google Toolbar or Google Desktop?
Perhaps a Google for Mobile device application?

What was the exact message that lead you to believe that whatever 'Google'
service/app/web page you are talking about knew you were infected? And what
were you infected with according to Google XXXXX? And What did Google XXXXX
tell you to do?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



Posted by C.Wilder on February 2, 2007, 7:51 pm
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Shenan Stanley wrote:
> C.Wilder wrote:
>> I had been wondering how Google knew my System was infected from
>> just trying to log on?
>
> PA Bear wrote:
>> Please see this page http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm then post back
>> to this thread with the information we'd need to be able to assist
>> you properly.
>
> C. Wilder wrote:
>> Only if you go here and get back to *me*
>>
>> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> The difference I see...
>> PA Bear (and many of the rest) were left to figure out what you
>> even meant.
>>
>> I had no trouble following that PA Bear did not understand what you
>> were posting and thus directed you to a place where you might learn
>> how to post a question on a newsgroup where 99.9999999% of the
>> participants cannot see your machine, cannot know what you did,
>> cannot do much without you providing necessary/complete
>> information.
>> Sure - PA Bear 'top-posted' - I bottom posted and I made the thread
>> look organized.
>> Should *I* complain you did not do the same?
>> I think not.
>>
>> Syntax vs. lack of information.
>> I seldom care about the former, but a lack of information leaves
>> little to go on.
>>
>> Not to mention, taking your post as written...
>> You already figured out what the issue was...
>> Have you been wondering or had you been wondering and figured it
>> all out? heh *grin*
>
> C.Wilder wrote:
>> I am sorry if I was to vague. I can understand an answer that says
>> "You are to vague". Now I am left to sift through rules that are
>> not consistant with 99.9999% of the rest of the *regulars* and
>> wonder what the problem
>> is?
>> I did not find my question all that confusing and after a review I
>> still see it the same way. Unless *no one* is aware that Google can
>> detect infected systems.
>>
>> I did not see any need for 99.9999% to *see* my machine as I
>> already stated if *was* infected.
>>
>> Thus the question. "How did Google know my System w(a)s infected."
>>
>> Did I miss anyting?
>
> Yes.
> Welcome to MICROSOFT.public.security.
> Your questions about a Google product or service should be directed
> towards Google and their support.
>
> If you had asked your question in a Google support
> forum/channel/newsgroup/direct to Google tech support - maybe it
> would not need as many details.
>
> Google what?
> Google - as in www.google.com?
> A Google service as in http://www.gmail.com or
> http://groups.google.com? A Google provided application like Google
> Toolbar or Google Desktop?
> Perhaps a Google for Mobile device application?
>
> What was the exact message that lead you to believe that whatever
> 'Google' service/app/web page you are talking about knew you were
> infected? And what were you infected with according to Google XXXXX?
> And What did Google XXXXX tell you to do?
>
My recent security issues had been addressed and solved by advice from
posters in this group. I saw a direct connection with my System's security
issue and the topic of this post. I was mistaken and for that I am sorry.
What is so hard about giving someone a clue to what the issue is instead of
this guessing game.

There is no order on this group.That is plain to see by anyone. Top
posting is rude by most standards but not if you are above the rules on your
favorite group. Those that live in a glass internet should not troll
thyself.

Now wouldn't one think that a simple answer would have solved all this
instead of self righteousness.

Why not just take a chill pill and call it a week.








Posted by PA Bear on February 2, 2007, 9:36 pm
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<plonk>

C.Wilder wrote: <snip>

Posted by Shenan Stanley on February 2, 2007, 10:35 pm
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C.Wilder wrote:
> I had been wondering how Google knew my System was infected from
> just trying to log on?

PA Bear wrote:
> Please see this page http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm then post back
> to this thread with the information we'd need to be able to assist
> you properly.

C. Wilder wrote:
> Only if you go here and get back to *me*
>
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> The difference I see...
> PA Bear (and many of the rest) were left to figure out what you
> even meant.
>
> I had no trouble following that PA Bear did not understand what
> you were posting and thus directed you to a place where you might
> learn how to post a question on a newsgroup where 99.9999999% of
> the participants cannot see your machine, cannot know what you
> did, cannot do much without you providing necessary/complete
> information.
>
> Sure - PA Bear 'top-posted' - I bottom posted and I made the
> thread look organized.
> Should *I* complain you did not do the same?
> I think not.
>
> Syntax vs. lack of information.
> I seldom care about the former, but a lack of information leaves
> little to go on.
>
> Not to mention, taking your post as written...
> You already figured out what the issue was...
> Have you been wondering or had you been wondering and figured it
> all out? heh *grin*

C.Wilder wrote:
> I am sorry if I was to vague. I can understand an answer that says
> "You are to vague". Now I am left to sift through rules that are
> not consistant with 99.9999% of the rest of the *regulars* and
> wonder what the problem
> is?
>
> I did not find my question all that confusing and after a review I
> still see it the same way. Unless *no one* is aware that Google
> can detect infected systems.
>
> I did not see any need for 99.9999% to *see* my machine as I
> already stated if *was* infected.
>
> Thus the question. "How did Google know my System w(a)s infected."
>
> Did I miss anyting?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Welcome to MICROSOFT.public.security.
> Your questions about a Google product or service should be directed
> towards Google and their support.
>
> If you had asked your question in a Google support
> forum/channel/newsgroup/direct to Google tech support - maybe it
> would not need as many details.
>
> Google what?
> Google - as in www.google.com?
> A Google service as in http://www.gmail.com or
> http://groups.google.com? A Google provided application like Google
> Toolbar or Google Desktop?
> Perhaps a Google for Mobile device application?
>
> What was the exact message that lead you to believe that whatever
> 'Google' service/app/web page you are talking about knew you were
> infected? And what were you infected with according to Google
> XXXXX? And What did Google XXXXX tell you to do?

C.Wilder wrote:
> My recent security issues had been addressed and solved by advice
> from posters in this group. I saw a direct connection with my
> System's security issue and the topic of this post. I was mistaken
> and for that I am sorry. What is so hard about giving someone a
> clue to what the issue is instead of this guessing game.
>
> There is no order on this group.That is plain to see by anyone. Top
> posting is rude by most standards but not if you are above the
> rules on your favorite group. Those that live in a glass internet
> should not troll thyself.
>
> Now wouldn't one think that a simple answer would have solved all
> this instead of self righteousness.
>
> Why not just take a chill pill and call it a week.

Why not answer the questions and provide the additional information anyone
would need to help you instead of avoiuding it and making nothing but
excuses?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on February 3, 2007, 12:02 pm
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> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> C.Wilder wrote:
>>> I had been wondering how Google knew my System was infected from
>>> just trying to log on?
>>
>> PA Bear wrote:
>>> post back to this thread with the information we'd need to be able to
>>> assist.
>>
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> PA Bear (and many of the rest) were left to figure out what you even
>>> meant.
>>
>> C.Wilder wrote:
>>> I am sorry if I was to vague. I can understand an answer that says
>>> "You are to vague". Now I am left to sift through rules that are
>>> not consistant with 99.9999% of the rest of the *regulars* and
>>> wonder what the problem is?
>>> I did not find my question all that confusing and after a review I
>>> still see it the same way. Unless *no one* is aware that Google can
>>> detect infected systems.
>>>
>>> Thus the question. "How did Google know my System w(a)s infected."
>>>
>>
>> Google what?
>> Google - as in www.google.com?
>> A Google service as in http://www.gmail.com or
>> http://groups.google.com? A Google provided application like Google
>> Toolbar or Google Desktop?
>> Perhaps a Google for Mobile device application?
>>
>> What was the exact message that lead you to believe that whatever
>> 'Google' service/app/web page you are talking about knew you were
>> infected? And what were you infected with according to Google XXXXX?
>> And What did Google XXXXX tell you to do?
>>
> My recent security issues had been addressed and solved by advice from
> posters in this group. I saw a direct connection with my System's security
> issue and the topic of this post. I was mistaken and for that I am sorry.

So, you mean when you fire up Google Earth it was telling you that
your system was infested and so Goolge Earth zoom would be bad ?
No. Oh, then it was the toolbar that gave a popup?

> What is so hard about giving someone a clue to what the issue is instead
> of this guessing game.
>

Ummm . . . that is exactly what people have been attempting to
make clear to you.
Google is a company.
It has many, many ways that people interact with it on the network.
You have said a company told you that your machine was sick, and
asked how it knew.
People here have said, tell us what interface to the company,
i.e. what software from it, you were using.

> There is no order on this group.That is plain to see by anyone. Top
> posting is rude by most standards but not if you are above the rules on
> your favorite group. Those that live in a glass internet should not troll
> thyself.
>

More true conclusion is hard to voice. ALL should heed it.
Also, top vs bottom is IMO archaic war, long ago obsoleted.

> Now wouldn't one think that a simple answer would have solved all this
> instead of self righteousness.
>

Yes, and you still have not said what of Google's softwares
is involved.

How can you expect any attempt at plausibility in a response
based on near zero context ?

Roger



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