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Hotmail Jim 05-18-2008
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---> Re: Hotmail PA Bear [MS MVP...05-18-2008
Posted by Jim on May 22, 2008, 4:45 pm
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I see how to change the trust status of a digital id, but I do not see how
you set the message rules. Also, Hotmail is not allowing the message rules
to work with the http sever. At least the last time I tried to block stuff
that is what happen.

> G'day:
>
>
>
> > You want to have your cake, and eat it, too. Can't be done. If anybody
had
> > discovered a 100% reliable method of blocking spam (as contrasted with
> > just
> > filtering it), they'd be rich, and the spammers out of business.
>
> Not really. I know a way: only accept messages that are digitally signed
by
> explicitely trusted correspondents.
>
> --
> Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
> -= F1 is the key =-
>
> * http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *
>
>



Posted by PA Bear [MS MVP] on May 22, 2008, 8:52 pm
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[Right pew, wrong church: OE Message Rules are not applied WebDAV/HTTP mail,
only POP3 mail.]

Jim wrote:
> ...Also, Hotmail is not allowing the message rules
> to work with the http sever...


Posted by Jim on May 25, 2008, 2:16 pm
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yes,
I meant msoe is not allowed to apply message rules on the http hotmail
server. It is working on my other pop3 accounts though and most private ssl
etc. biz goes on with those accounts. I save Hotmail for specifically
connecting with the outside world and the other for the inner world of
family biz and people I have a specific extended biz relationship with. I
can rig Hotmail this way, but have not lately.

I had a cert long ago, ~2k Thawte freemail personal, but have since found it
difficult connect to the approved MS websites and have relied on the trusted
root CA in the store onboard for ssl. I do not know why the link is not
working for me and I have seen some website at MS for this function. I could
also use the bank, which I believe have CA and notary ability. All of my
pop3 mail goes thru ssl so I don't need it...this I am not certain of, but I
am assuming there is no real need of a personal CA there.

> [Right pew, wrong church: OE Message Rules are not applied WebDAV/HTTP
mail,
> only POP3 mail.]
>
> Jim wrote:
> > ...Also, Hotmail is not allowing the message rules
> > to work with the http sever...
>



Posted by PA Bear [MS MVP] on May 27, 2008, 8:54 pm
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> I meant msoe is not allowed to apply message rules on the http hotmail
> server.

It's really not a question of "being allowed," it's the fact that it OE
doesn't do it.


Jim wrote:
> yes,
> I meant msoe is not allowed to apply message rules on the http hotmail
> server. It is working on my other pop3 accounts though and most private
> ssl
> etc. biz goes on with those accounts. I save Hotmail for specifically
> connecting with the outside world and the other for the inner world of
> family biz and people I have a specific extended biz relationship with. I
> can rig Hotmail this way, but have not lately.
>
> I had a cert long ago, ~2k Thawte freemail personal, but have since found
> it
> difficult connect to the approved MS websites and have relied on the
> trusted
> root CA in the store onboard for ssl. I do not know why the link is not
> working for me and I have seen some website at MS for this function. I
> could
> also use the bank, which I believe have CA and notary ability. All of my
> pop3 mail goes thru ssl so I don't need it...this I am not certain of, but
> I
> am assuming there is no real need of a personal CA there.
>
>> [Right pew, wrong church: OE Message Rules are not applied WebDAV/HTTP
>> mail, only POP3 mail.]
>>
>> Jim wrote:
>>> ...Also, Hotmail is not allowing the message rules
>>> to work with the http sever...


Posted by Jim on May 28, 2008, 11:21 am
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Thanks for clarifying that point.

> > I meant msoe is not allowed to apply message rules on the http hotmail
> > server.
>
> It's really not a question of "being allowed," it's the fact that it OE
> doesn't do it.
>
>
> Jim wrote:
> > yes,
> > I meant msoe is not allowed to apply message rules on the http hotmail
> > server. It is working on my other pop3 accounts though and most private
> > ssl
> > etc. biz goes on with those accounts. I save Hotmail for specifically
> > connecting with the outside world and the other for the inner world of
> > family biz and people I have a specific extended biz relationship with.
I
> > can rig Hotmail this way, but have not lately.
> >
> > I had a cert long ago, ~2k Thawte freemail personal, but have since
found
> > it
> > difficult connect to the approved MS websites and have relied on the
> > trusted
> > root CA in the store onboard for ssl. I do not know why the link is not
> > working for me and I have seen some website at MS for this function. I
> > could
> > also use the bank, which I believe have CA and notary ability. All of my
> > pop3 mail goes thru ssl so I don't need it...this I am not certain of,
but
> > I
> > am assuming there is no real need of a personal CA there.
> >
> >> [Right pew, wrong church: OE Message Rules are not applied WebDAV/HTTP
> >> mail, only POP3 mail.]
> >>
> >> Jim wrote:
> >>> ...Also, Hotmail is not allowing the message rules
> >>> to work with the http sever...
>



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