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Posted by Jim on May 19, 2008, 1:56 pm
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Thanks to all of you for your responses.
I have been running on "custom" high security settings lately [US-CERT] and
this makes
visiting windows live/hotmail difficult, but not impossible; too place in
Trusted zone. I do use MSOEv.6 and sometimes TB.
*_The HTTP server does not allow message rules from these applications.
Although a Trusted Z [what is the best wildcard?] is not difficult to
perform for browser access purposes, I do
not see in the filter list a way to exclude numerous financial groups from
the junk/bulk folder. If I run with privacy settings at medium-high, this is
pretty good and functional. Currently I have "custom" privacy settings too,
e.g. session/prompt. I also use AS online scan/filtering of tracking cookies
and spy/adware. I cleanboot the system every week with maintenance.
I do not read any real descriptive information in those emails, only the
classic phish/ fraud come-on. It would be nice if Hotmail would filter these
out of even the junk mail folder. I like to keep Hotmail open to the outside
world.
> [Crossposted to Internet Mail newsgroup]
>
> You could tweak your Junk Mail, etc., filters. See links here:
> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5828.entry
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> Jim wrote:
> > Is it just me, or has there been a significant increase in the number of
> > fraudulent phishing type scams on the Hotmail service bulk email folder?
> > dUh...when are they going to do something about it?! I usually would
> > submit
> > these to abuse@hotmail.com or whichever mail service I am using at the
> > time.
> > At Hotmail the complaint gets the auto-response of no action taken. It
is
> > almost as if by elimination they are looking for who we don't have an
> > account with...
>
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Posted by N. Miller on May 19, 2008, 4:54 pm
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 13:56:42 -0400, Jim wrote:
> I do not read any real descriptive information in those emails, only the
> classic phish/ fraud come-on. It would be nice if Hotmail would filter these
> out of even the junk mail folder.
Eh? The whole purpose of the Junk folder is to hold suspicious email for
evaluation against possible false positives.
> I like to keep Hotmail open to the outside world.
You want to have your cake, and eat it, too. Can't be done. If anybody had
discovered a 100% reliable method of blocking spam (as contrasted with just
filtering it), they'd be rich, and the spammers out of business.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Posted by Jim on May 19, 2008, 7:36 pm
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Things to be reported to Abuse@hotmail.com and/or www.Abuse.net
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 13:56:42 -0400, Jim wrote:
>
> > I do not read any real descriptive information in those emails, only the
> > classic phish/ fraud come-on. It would be nice if Hotmail would filter
these
> > out of even the junk mail folder.
...dUh... and Eh? seem similar enough. Why burden the end user with known
stuff?
> Eh? The whole purpose of the Junk folder is to hold suspicious email for
> evaluation against possible false positives.
>
> > I like to keep Hotmail open to the outside world.
>
> You want to have your cake, and eat it, too. _ If anybody had
> discovered a 100% reliable method of blocking spam (as contrasted with
just
> filtering it), they'd be rich, and the spammers out of business.
That's why I bake a cake, to eat it.
> --
> No man.
> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
> John 8:32
The Bayesian technique is helpful in convergence filtering. A database with
one to one correspondence of the results. IP identifiers that traceroute.
All that server side. Contact local authorities. Certainly most are outside
US like (Largos Nigeria the new Chicago)... but a little sweetening of the
pie [our State Dept.] in order to curb the activity usually works there.
Despite what some might think about Largos, many of these people are smart
and creative in this crime. The US does quite a lot of biz there.$. Lastly,
this is crime and not just in this country. It has persisted for some time
now and needs to be kicked up a notch.
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Posted by S. Pidgorny on May 21, 2008, 3:43 am
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> You want to have your cake, and eat it, too. Can't be done. If anybody had
> discovered a 100% reliable method of blocking spam (as contrasted with
> just
> filtering it), they'd be rich, and the spammers out of business.
Not really. I know a way: only accept messages that are digitally signed by
explicitely trusted correspondents.
--
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-
* http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *
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Posted by Jim on May 22, 2008, 4:14 pm
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button in msoev.6 ~ is not connecting to anywhere. I went back to Thawte and
they wanted me to tweak the browser into an unsafe mode allowing many active
x and scripting etc. I happen to have an older os, win98se and I like it,
but I have not found a CA since the early 2k days. Currently I rely on the
trusted root and intermediate CA providers in the cert store on board. As
gas prices go up and up I think I will need to get one to save on certain
long biz trips to the Farm Service Agency just to sign contracts. You would
think that the U.S. Government would be up to snuff on these things by
now...ha!
> G'day:
>
>
>
> > You want to have your cake, and eat it, too. Can't be done. If anybody
had
> > discovered a 100% reliable method of blocking spam (as contrasted with
> > just
> > filtering it), they'd be rich, and the spammers out of business.
>
> Not really. I know a way: only accept messages that are digitally signed
by
> explicitely trusted correspondents.
>
> --
> Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
> -= F1 is the key =-
>
> * http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *
>
>
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