Have you used bitlocker?

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Have you used bitlocker? phasmid123 12-08-2006
Posted by Alun Jones [MS-MVP - Windows S on December 15, 2006, 12:00 am
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> Is it true that bitlocker only protects the hard drive when it's
> OFFLINE? Consider the scenarios:

That is the point of full-drive encryption schemes. When the drive is
offline, it cannot be brought back online without a key, or set of keys.
Until it is brought back online with the right keys, the data on the drive
is essentially random.

> 1) I have a TPM capable laptop running bitlocker. The laptop is NOT
> joined to a domain and boots automatically to my default account
> without asking for user logon and password. Let's say this laptop is
> stolen, the thief can boot it up normally (just like what I do) and
> transfer the file to another location, correct?

It depends. If you configure the laptop in the default manner - TPM being
the only protection of the Bitlocker key - then, yes, you are right, the
thief has everything that he needs to boot your system and copy data out.

> 2) I have a TPM capable laptop running bitlocker. It is not joined to
> the domain but Windows prompts me to enter a local account name and
> password before completing the boot process. If I lose this laptop, the
> thief cannot obtain any data unless the logon and password is known,
> correct?

Not correct. He does not need your logon and password. He needs to run
code on your laptop. He can run code either by using your logon and
password, or by exploiting any flaws that might exist in your operating
system, attacking it through any of the external ports - network, serial,
parallel, USB, CD-ROM, Infra-Red, WiFi driver, etc, etc. Are you certain
that your OS has no such flaws? I'm not, even for Vista.

> What I'm trying to say is, are you only protected by your Windows
> password with bitlocker? If that your Windows passwd is compromised
> then the encryption is useless?

You are protected by whatever you use to secure your keys - so set BitLocker
up to use TPM + PIN or TPM + USB, and don't write the PIN down on a sticky
note on the laptop case, and don't leave the USB key in the laptop.

You are protected by your Windows password - but since your laptop is
offline and can't contact the domain controller, the account is not locked,
and the password can be guessed as many times as the thief cares to try.

You are protected by the security of the code in the Windows Operating
System - but as soon as a wormable exploit arrives, that protection is void.

You are protected by the strength of the encryption algorithm, and the lack
of any flaws in it. Mathematics always gets better, though.

By not strongly recommending (and ideally, choosing as default) the options
in BitLocker that require external keying material (PIN or USB token), I
think Microsoft have done their users a significant dis-service. By
insisting that BitLocker + TPM prevents offline attacks, they are
comfortably ignoring the point that once a machine is stolen, it can be
brought back online, and the thief can attack the system at his leisure
through every hole on the outside of your machine (and perhaps a few on the
inside).

Alun.
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Posted by phasmid123 on December 28, 2006, 7:56 pm
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Alun,

Thanks for your insight. For bitlocker's PIN option, you can only use
numbers or you can use characters as well?

JK
Alun Jones [MS-MVP - Windows Security] wrote:
> > Is it true that bitlocker only protects the hard drive when it's
> > OFFLINE? Consider the scenarios:
>
> That is the point of full-drive encryption schemes. When the drive is
> offline, it cannot be brought back online without a key, or set of keys.
> Until it is brought back online with the right keys, the data on the drive
> is essentially random.
>
> > 1) I have a TPM capable laptop running bitlocker. The laptop is NOT
> > joined to a domain and boots automatically to my default account
> > without asking for user logon and password. Let's say this laptop is
> > stolen, the thief can boot it up normally (just like what I do) and
> > transfer the file to another location, correct?
>
> It depends. If you configure the laptop in the default manner - TPM being
> the only protection of the Bitlocker key - then, yes, you are right, the
> thief has everything that he needs to boot your system and copy data out.
>
> > 2) I have a TPM capable laptop running bitlocker. It is not joined to
> > the domain but Windows prompts me to enter a local account name and
> > password before completing the boot process. If I lose this laptop, the
> > thief cannot obtain any data unless the logon and password is known,
> > correct?
>
> Not correct. He does not need your logon and password. He needs to run
> code on your laptop. He can run code either by using your logon and
> password, or by exploiting any flaws that might exist in your operating
> system, attacking it through any of the external ports - network, serial,
> parallel, USB, CD-ROM, Infra-Red, WiFi driver, etc, etc. Are you certain
> that your OS has no such flaws? I'm not, even for Vista.
>
> > What I'm trying to say is, are you only protected by your Windows
> > password with bitlocker? If that your Windows passwd is compromised
> > then the encryption is useless?
>
> You are protected by whatever you use to secure your keys - so set BitLocker
> up to use TPM + PIN or TPM + USB, and don't write the PIN down on a sticky
> note on the laptop case, and don't leave the USB key in the laptop.
>
> You are protected by your Windows password - but since your laptop is
> offline and can't contact the domain controller, the account is not locked,
> and the password can be guessed as many times as the thief cares to try.
>
> You are protected by the security of the code in the Windows Operating
> System - but as soon as a wormable exploit arrives, that protection is void.
>
> You are protected by the strength of the encryption algorithm, and the lack
> of any flaws in it. Mathematics always gets better, though.
>
> By not strongly recommending (and ideally, choosing as default) the options
> in BitLocker that require external keying material (PIN or USB token), I
> think Microsoft have done their users a significant dis-service. By
> insisting that BitLocker + TPM prevents offline attacks, they are
> comfortably ignoring the point that once a machine is stolen, it can be
> brought back online, and the thief can attack the system at his leisure
> through every hole on the outside of your machine (and perhaps a few on the
> inside).
>
> Alun.
> ~~~~


Posted by Alun Jones on December 29, 2006, 12:28 pm
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> Thanks for your insight. For bitlocker's PIN option, you can only use
> numbers or you can use characters as well?

Microsoft has to support so many different languages and keyboard layouts,
that they decided that the only keys they could guarantee would be available
on all systems at start time were the function keys - so, your PIN must be
numeric, and entered using F1-F10.

Third-party drive encryption programs use only a limited number of keyboard
layouts.

Alun.
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