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Gurus: server on perimeter vs. corporate advice Marlon Brown 08-15-2005
Posted by Marlon Brown on August 15, 2005, 11:36 pm
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I need to publish a Sharepoint server that is on our "internal" network. I
have ISA 2004 configued on the "Perimeter" network.
Anyone here can tell me the *real* implications of pusblishing such
Sharepoint server that is on the internal network ?
Some folks at my organization persist that I should place the Sharepoint
server in the perimeter network as well. Of course it would be more work
move such server and open all relevant ports for Sharepoint in the firewall.
I read Steve Riley book "Protecting your Windows Network from Perimeter to
Data" and I understand the most recent advice is to keep "application"
servers in the corporate network and use a reverse-proxy (such as ISA 2004)
to publish them.

Anyone here has ever seen statistics or have you tried to hack such servers
and tell me how relevant would be put such Sharepoint (or another server
such as OWA) on the Perimeter instead of keeping it in the internal network
? People talk a lot about this, but actually I would like to see in
practical terms how more protected will be left the server in the internal
network as is.



Posted by Karl Levinson, mvp on August 16, 2005, 7:52 am
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> I need to publish a Sharepoint server that is on our "internal" network. I
> have ISA 2004 configued on the "Perimeter" network.
> Anyone here can tell me the *real* implications of pusblishing such
> Sharepoint server that is on the internal network ?

> Anyone here has ever seen statistics or have you tried to hack such
servers
> and tell me how relevant would be put such Sharepoint (or another server
> such as OWA) on the Perimeter instead of keeping it in the internal
network
> ? People talk a lot about this, but actually I would like to see in
> practical terms how more protected will be left the server in the internal
> network as is.

This isn't about protecting your Sharepoint server, it's about assuming that
your Sharepoint server could be compromised in the future and protecting
your internal network from an attacker that has remote control of that
server. IIS web services are a big target of hacking and are hacked all the
freaking time [see www.zone-h.org for specific examples of hacks occuring
daily], although if you are running Windows Server 2003, IIS is a lot more
secure. No one is going to force you to put the Sharepoint server into a
DMZ, but if you make a mistake on your Sharepoint's security configuration,
or fail to patch soon enough, someone is going to discover it and hack your
server.

Another problem is that internal Windows networks are very noisy and
difficult to impossible to monitor to detect intrusions. Putting your
server into a DMZ makes it easier to detect when its been hacked.

Putting your sharepoint server into a DMZ should be really easy. If it
isn't too busy, you can just buy a $600 entry-level firewall device like
www.netscreen.com or similar, plug it into where your Sharepoint server is
plugged into, plug the Sharepoint server into the Firewall, and configure
the firewall. Voila, you have your DMZ. If you really wanted to, you could
configure the Windows 2003 Windows Firewall or use IPsec rules on the
Sharepoint server for free... although I don't recommend relying just on
those. The logging is inadequate or nonexistant, and the Windows Firewall
doesn't monitor or block outbound connections. Also, if either of these is
hacked, you'll probably never know it if you don't have a second firewall or
network device for protection.




Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RGVyZWsgTmV3dG9u?= on August 16, 2005, 9:25 am
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I personally have implemented SharePoint in both environments (DMZ & internal
network) and have found that most DMZ based implementations provide no
additional security over utilizing reverse-proxying to internally placed
front-end servers. Generally most companies who go the DMZ route still place
the backend SharePoint server(s) (SQL, etc) on their internal network and due
to SharePoint's tight AD integration, they generally choose to open an
additional hole from their DMZ into their internal network to allow the
front-end SharePoint servers to talk to a DC - I've seen this implemented a
variety of ways (including an IPSEC tunnel into the internal network, or
simply a rule allowing the front-end server to talk to the appropriate
servers within the internal network). Given the above considerations, if an
intruder gains access to the SharePoint server that is located in the DMZ,
they could theoretically gain access to internally placed servers - and from
there they have access to the internal network; this task is by no means
trivial, however it is a possible scenario.

Therefore, from a security perspective, locating the SharePoint front-end
servers in the DMZ would seem to have the same risk as locating the front-end
servers within the internal network. In addition, having the reverse-proxy
in place puts another layer of security between the "outside world" and your
internal network. You'll also most likely run into fewer issues with
SharePoint and maybe see some speed increases (less packet
inspection/encryption work between the front-end servers and the back-end).

I do agree with Karl that a benefit of placing the server within the DMZ is
that there could be less "noise" on the network segment thus making it easier
to detect intrusions. However, you could easily accomplish this within your
internal network by subnetting and creating another network segment within
your internal network which would reduce network "chatter" - you could then
place an IDS on that new segment to watch for intrusions.

In my opinion, a DMZ is best used for "stand-alone" servers which do not
utilize services within the internal network; DMZs can be useful when
implementing these stand-alone services while still providing a reasonably
protected environment (even those these services are exposed to the world, a
firewall protecting the DMZ would control access).

Hope this helps...

Derek

"Marlon Brown" wrote:

> I need to publish a Sharepoint server that is on our "internal" network. I
> have ISA 2004 configued on the "Perimeter" network.
> Anyone here can tell me the *real* implications of pusblishing such
> Sharepoint server that is on the internal network ?
> Some folks at my organization persist that I should place the Sharepoint
> server in the perimeter network as well. Of course it would be more work
> move such server and open all relevant ports for Sharepoint in the firewall.
> I read Steve Riley book "Protecting your Windows Network from Perimeter to
> Data" and I understand the most recent advice is to keep "application"
> servers in the corporate network and use a reverse-proxy (such as ISA 2004)
> to publish them.
>
> Anyone here has ever seen statistics or have you tried to hack such servers
> and tell me how relevant would be put such Sharepoint (or another server
> such as OWA) on the Perimeter instead of keeping it in the internal network
> ? People talk a lot about this, but actually I would like to see in
> practical terms how more protected will be left the server in the internal
> network as is.
>
>
>

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