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Computer Certificate Private Key Mr.B 12-07-2007
Posted by =?Utf-8?B?TXIuQg==?= on December 7, 2007, 9:26 am
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By default, if i set up auto enrollment for computer certificate, i can from
computer export private key.
What would happened, if i import these key to different computer.
If I use different computer and i tried to authenticate, to IAS, would it
exempted as valid ?


Posted by Alun Jones on December 7, 2007, 12:54 pm
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> By default, if i set up auto enrollment for computer certificate, i can
> from
> computer export private key.
> What would happened, if i import these key to different computer.
> If I use different computer and i tried to authenticate, to IAS, would it
> exempted as valid ?

Cryptography assumes that if you have the private key, you are the
individual or computer identified as associated with that key.

However, the recipient of a signed key exchange (in this case, IAS) might
note that your computer is trying to authenticate as a computer name other
than that with which it passed NTLM authentication. In such a case, it would
almost certainly fail the authentication.

Alun.
~~~~



Posted by =?Utf-8?B?TXIuQg==?= on December 9, 2007, 3:58 am
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Interested.
I have set up 802.1x. I will test it tomorrow. SO i can excepted that
computer will be authenticated with 802.1x. So computer get in to private
network, but it does not authenticate to domain. But that is security birch.
Problem is that I use v1 computer template, and I don’t now, how to make
automotive request, with option, do not export private can, or make it
exportable….


"Alun Jones" wrote:

> > By default, if i set up auto enrollment for computer certificate, i can
> > from
> > computer export private key.
> > What would happened, if i import these key to different computer.
> > If I use different computer and i tried to authenticate, to IAS, would it
> > exempted as valid ?
>
> Cryptography assumes that if you have the private key, you are the
> individual or computer identified as associated with that key.
>
> However, the recipient of a signed key exchange (in this case, IAS) might
> note that your computer is trying to authenticate as a computer name other
> than that with which it passed NTLM authentication. In such a case, it would
> almost certainly fail the authentication.
>
> Alun.
> ~~~~
>
>
>

Posted by Brian Komar on December 9, 2007, 10:31 am
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Actually
The computer account is authenticating to the domain. *You* have decided to
export a private key and import it on a non-trusted host (based on the tone
of your response).
It is not a security breach if *you* decide to put the private key on the
offending host.
Now, you see why the key is non-exportable
Brian

> Interested.
> I have set up 802.1x. I will test it tomorrow. SO i can excepted that
> computer will be authenticated with 802.1x. So computer get in to private
> network, but it does not authenticate to domain. But that is security
> birch.
> Problem is that I use v1 computer template, and I don’t now, how to make
> automotive request, with option, do not export private can, or make it
> exportable….
>
>
> "Alun Jones" wrote:
>
>> > By default, if i set up auto enrollment for computer certificate, i can
>> > from
>> > computer export private key.
>> > What would happened, if i import these key to different computer.
>> > If I use different computer and i tried to authenticate, to IAS, would
>> > it
>> > exempted as valid ?
>>
>> Cryptography assumes that if you have the private key, you are the
>> individual or computer identified as associated with that key.
>>
>> However, the recipient of a signed key exchange (in this case, IAS) might
>> note that your computer is trying to authenticate as a computer name
>> other
>> than that with which it passed NTLM authentication. In such a case, it
>> would
>> almost certainly fail the authentication.
>>
>> Alun.
>> ~~~~
>>
>>
>>


Posted by =?Utf-8?B?TXIuQg==?= on December 9, 2007, 2:16 pm
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But by default IT IS. And I have to find out, how to prevent these.
I have auto enrollment for computer template. Server is 2003 Standard CA is
Subordinate Enterprise.

"Brian Komar" wrote:

> Actually
> The computer account is authenticating to the domain. *You* have decided to
> export a private key and import it on a non-trusted host (based on the tone
> of your response).
> It is not a security breach if *you* decide to put the private key on the
> offending host.
> Now, you see why the key is non-exportable
> Brian
>
> > Interested.
> > I have set up 802.1x. I will test it tomorrow. SO i can excepted that
> > computer will be authenticated with 802.1x. So computer get in to private
> > network, but it does not authenticate to domain. But that is security
> > birch.
> > Problem is that I use v1 computer template, and I don’t now, how to make
> > automotive request, with option, do not export private can, or make it
> > exportable….
> >
> >
> > "Alun Jones" wrote:
> >
> >> > By default, if i set up auto enrollment for computer certificate, i can
> >> > from
> >> > computer export private key.
> >> > What would happened, if i import these key to different computer.
> >> > If I use different computer and i tried to authenticate, to IAS, would
> >> > it
> >> > exempted as valid ?
> >>
> >> Cryptography assumes that if you have the private key, you are the
> >> individual or computer identified as associated with that key.
> >>
> >> However, the recipient of a signed key exchange (in this case, IAS) might
> >> note that your computer is trying to authenticate as a computer name
> >> other
> >> than that with which it passed NTLM authentication. In such a case, it
> >> would
> >> almost certainly fail the authentication.
> >>
> >> Alun.
> >> ~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

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