Bypassing domain and OU GPO settings using the Security Configuration and Analysis MMC

Bypassing domain and OU GPO settings using the Security Configuration and Analysis MMC

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Bypassing domain and OU GPO settings using the Security Configuration and Analysis MMC Spin 05-11-2008
Posted by Daniel Petri on May 13, 2008, 8:11 am
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Like the others said the moment you give someone enough rights they can do
whatever they want.

But I wonder why one would go through all the trouble to disable the GPO as
you've described it. Isn't it much simpler to download the KillPol tool from
my site, and simply enter the right administrative username and password?
Running the tool again will bring back the GPO. Quite useful for
troubleshooting and management scenarios.

www.petri.co.il/killpol.htm

Daniel Petri
www.petri.co.il



> Gurus,
>
> This is a re-post of a message sent solely to the group_policy NG. I'm
> copying a wider audience here to engage some discussions amongst you IT
> Security Managers/security consultants out there.
>
> Running Windows Server 2003 SP2 in a single Active Directory domain (Lab
> environment). I am experimenting with the Group Policy Security database,
> secedit.sdb If you run the Setup Security INF in the Security
> Configuration and Analysis Snapin against this database, you will bring
> your system back Windows security default settings and it will remain that
> way until the next Group Policy Refresh interval. You must be an admin on
> the machine to do this. My question is, isn't this a security risk in
> it's own right, bypassing domain and OU GPO settings? A respondent in
> the Group Policy newsgroup (Marcin) stated that if my sole goal is to
> prevent use of Security Configuration and Analysis, I have ability to
> restrict access to arbitrarily selected snap-ins via GPO. In addition I
> could restrict ability to execute Secedit (which one can do by following
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323525). While I agree this is a major
> technical challenge, has anyone else in these other NGs I've copied on
> this message ever worried about this? Or should I just let it pass?
>
> --
> Spin



Posted by Spin on May 14, 2008, 3:30 pm
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> Like the others said the moment you give someone enough rights they can do
> whatever they want.
>
> But I wonder why one would go through all the trouble to disable the GPO
> as you've described it. Isn't it much simpler to download the KillPol tool
> from my site, and simply enter the right administrative username and
> password? Running the tool again will bring back the GPO. Quite useful for
> troubleshooting and management scenarios.
>
> www.petri.co.il/killpol.htm

Daniel I just tried Kilpol.exe from your web site and while it looked
promising, after I executed it, I immediately ran another RSOP.msc and all
of the customized domain policies were showing still in place. What am I
doing wrong?



Posted by Daniel Petri on May 14, 2008, 3:56 pm
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Because RSOP sees that last applied policy, not what is applied at that
given moment.

Try disabling something visible, you'll see KillPol works...


--
Daniel Petri
www.petri.co.il



>> Like the others said the moment you give someone enough rights they can
>> do whatever they want.
>>
>> But I wonder why one would go through all the trouble to disable the GPO
>> as you've described it. Isn't it much simpler to download the KillPol
>> tool from my site, and simply enter the right administrative username and
>> password? Running the tool again will bring back the GPO. Quite useful
>> for troubleshooting and management scenarios.
>>
>> www.petri.co.il/killpol.htm
>
> Daniel I just tried Kilpol.exe from your web site and while it looked
> promising, after I executed it, I immediately ran another RSOP.msc and all
> of the customized domain policies were showing still in place. What am I
> doing wrong?
>
>



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