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Business office space renter with wireless
Business office space renter with wireless

Business office space renter with wireless

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Business office space renter with wireless Vic 09-19-2008
Posted by Malke on September 19, 2008, 1:17 pm
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Vic wrote:

> So, what I have done, and let me know if this will take care of the
> problem, is I've unplugged their wireless router from our network until I
> can contact their technical person ( which will be my next call, pending
> your reply) and tell him to call someone to add network drops to their
> router and plug his wireless router into his own network switch.
>

Not exactly. It's a good step, but I'd:

1. Have the security professional come in and take a look at your network.

2. Consider flattening/reimaging your workstations and server. You have no
idea whether they've been compromised. The security professional - not
theirs, *yours* - needs to make this determination.

3. If you aren't regularly imaging your workstations and server, you need to
do this. Ditto for backups and creating a disaster recovery strategy.

4. I'm sure the security professional will also suggest that your server and
networking equipment should be in a locked room accessible only to a very
few authorized personnel.

Malke
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Posted by S. Pidgorny on September 19, 2008, 7:54 pm
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G'day:


Malke wrote:
> Vic wrote:
>
>> So, what I have done, and let me know if this will take care of the
>> problem, is I've unplugged their wireless router from our network until I
>> can contact their technical person ( which will be my next call, pending
>> your reply) and tell him to call someone to add network drops to their
>> router and plug his wireless router into his own network switch.
>>
>
> Not exactly. It's a good step, but I'd:
>
> 1. Have the security professional come in and take a look at your network.
>
> 2. Consider flattening/reimaging your workstations and server. You have no
> idea whether they've been compromised. The security professional - not
> theirs, *yours* - needs to make this determination.
>
> 3. If you aren't regularly imaging your workstations and server, you need to
> do this. Ditto for backups and creating a disaster recovery strategy.
>
> 4. I'm sure the security professional will also suggest that your server and
> networking equipment should be in a locked room accessible only to a very
> few authorized personnel.
>
> Malke

Disconnecting the wireless bridge may be the only option immediately
available. Following your recommendations, however correct, will take
time and probably need to involve more people making decisions. While
investigations are pending and there is no evidence of systems'
compromise and data theft, continuing business as usuall is pretty much
the only available option.

I would say, conceptually, that connectivity should go via
bank-controlled router/switch to avoid situations like that.


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Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
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Posted by Galen on September 19, 2008, 11:26 pm
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My reply is at the bottom of your sent message.


> 2. Consider flattening/reimaging your workstations and server. You have no
> idea whether they've been compromised. The security professional - not
> theirs, *yours* - needs to make this determination.

As this is a financial organization they *may* be also under various
regulations that require them to report this security breach and maintain
evidence depending on the region/country they are from.

Other than that, I'd say that the first step is getting a team in there
immediately as you suggested is probably the best option.

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Posted by S. Pidgorny on September 21, 2008, 2:57 am
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G'day:

Galen wrote:

> As this is a financial organization they *may* be also under various
> regulations that require them to report this security breach and maintain
> evidence depending on the region/country they are from.

Disclosure is required only in situations where actual breach has
occurred. I cannot conclude that there was information theft cased on
the information at hand.

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Posted by S. Pidgorny on September 19, 2008, 7:47 pm
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G'day:

Malke wrote:

> How ever did *that* happen?!

That happens sometimes when branch connectivity is outsourced. Nobody's
protected from human mistakes.

> 1. Any infected machine on their network can infect your entire network,
> including your server.
>
> 2. If you've been so lax in your security, there's a good possibility that
> any shared resources on your network are available to people on their
> network. Which is now a shared network.
>
> 3. Aside from using up your bandwidth, you've opened yourself to data theft.

You are painting a doomsday scenario. For all that to happen, the
systems must be insecurely configured and open to remote exploits. That
is not always the case.

IP networks of most large enterprises and government agencies are porous
at best. Therefore controlled access to the IP network itself shouldn't
be considered an important protection mechanism.

> Don't you have an IT Dept.? You need to separate your network and secure it
> from any others. If you don't have an IT Dept. (hard to believe that a bank
> wouldn't), contract with a local professional security/networking firm to
> come and get you straightened out.

Many banks outsource most of IT operations. And local offices are not
allowed to engage 3rd-party security consultants. So the only course of
action available to most of the bank staff is to locate information
security department (and incident response group within it) and report a
security incident.

Vic has done great job finding the problem and eliminating the immediate
cause.


--
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-

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