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Attacks prompt third parties to fix flaw imhotep 10-03-2006
Posted by imhotep on October 9, 2006, 12:12 am
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Leythos wrote:

> imhotep@nospam.net says...
>> Now, I am sorry your news reader, MicroPlanet-Gravity, coughs on this,
>> really I am. However, what I am doing is fully within the RFCs for NNTP
>> and is *not* malicious. I have heard outlook express also has a problem
>> with this in the past. I do not know the status of OE as I have not used
>> it in 8 or so years.
>
> Obviously you are doing it to be malicious, as anyone making a reply,
> with any usenet client, will follow the posting groups and reply in
> those groups. Your argument does not work, unless the posters Usenet
> client is misconfigured (like yours), everyone will see their reply.
>
> You are not helping, you are making it harder.
>
> If you want personal touches you need to stick with email, proper usenet
> methods for posting group messages to multiple areas also mean that you
> leave the follow-up alone. There is no valid reason to screw-up the
> message paths.
>
> Since most of the people you are posting to are noobs, with OE, you are
> purposely screwing with them, as they may never read your reply.
>


You are a waste of time...and borderline a troll...

Imhotep

Posted by imhotep on October 9, 2006, 12:18 am
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Dan W. wrote:

> Dan W. wrote:
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> imhotep@nospam.net says...
>>>> Now, I am sorry your news reader, MicroPlanet-Gravity, coughs on this,
>>>> really I am. However, what I am doing is fully within the RFCs for
>>>> NNTP and
>>>> is *not* malicious. I have heard outlook express also has a problem
>>>> with this in the past. I do not know the status of OE as I have not
>>>> used it in 8
>>>> or so years.
>>>
>>> Obviously you are doing it to be malicious, as anyone making a reply,
>>> with any usenet client, will follow the posting groups and reply in
>>> those groups. Your argument does not work, unless the posters Usenet
>>> client is misconfigured (like yours), everyone will see their reply.
>>>
>>> You are not helping, you are making it harder.
>>>
>>> If you want personal touches you need to stick with email, proper
>>> usenet methods for posting group messages to multiple areas also mean
>>> that you leave the follow-up alone. There is no valid reason to
>>> screw-up the message paths.
>>>
>>> Since most of the people you are posting to are noobs, with OE, you
>>> are purposely screwing with them, as they may never read your reply.
>>>
>>
>> I am hardly ever able to reply to Imhotep either and I use Mozilla
>> Thunderbird which is an open source solution. What the heck is wrong
>> with your newsreader, Imhotep or are you super paranoid about having
>> your posts replied to. I thought it was Microsoft's fault at first but
>> now I see the light that it is most likely the way you have your
>> newsreader configured. Either join the game with your feedback and get
>> with the program or please start posting elsewhere. I am only partially
>> saying this to be an a____e and hope that you do change and that we can
>> get along. I do appreciate the notices but you should be positive to
>> all technology solutions and not demonize one solution over another. I
>> would say no product offers the complete answer and only a plethora of
>> products allows a somewhat positive experience. Have a nice day!
>>
>
> This was directed at imhotep and not Leythos.
>


I do not demonize any solution. As I stated to lyther or whatever his name
is: I do this because I do not have time to read ever newsgroup I post to.
I usually post alert type posts...

Now, I use the followup-to to point to a newsgroup I do try to check daily.
This is out of respect for someone who replies to me. If you are repling
but do not care if it is to me, set your headers any way you wish...

Now, what specifically are you having a problem with? What does your
newsreader do when it sees a "Followup-to". Please describe the problem so,
at least, I can understand it.

Honestly, my newsreader works well with or without the "followup-to"...which
is why I do not understand your problem....


Im

Posted by Leythos on October 9, 2006, 7:46 am
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imhotep@nospam.net says...
> I do not demonize any solution. As I stated to lyther or whatever his name
> is: I do this because I do not have time to read ever newsgroup I post to.
> I usually post alert type posts...

And as was stated to you: Some servers don't carry the group you set the
follow-up too, some people don't read that group, but, if you don't mess
with the follow-up, then everyone doing a reply, with a proper usenet
client, will be visible to everyone else in the thread.

Your method breaks the cross-posting model, breaks the reply method,
breaks the ability to reply for people that use Usenet servers that
don't have the security group.

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Posted by imhotep on October 9, 2006, 11:11 pm
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Leythos wrote:

> imhotep@nospam.net says...
>> I do not demonize any solution. As I stated to lyther or whatever his
>> name is: I do this because I do not have time to read ever newsgroup I
>> post to. I usually post alert type posts...

>>
> And as was stated to you: Some servers don't carry the group you set the
> follow-up too, some people don't read that group, but, if you don't mess
> with the follow-up, then everyone doing a reply, with a proper usenet
> client, will be visible to everyone else in the thread.

Again, you miss the point, again I try to make you
understand...merry-go-round anyone...

..and as stated by me, which you neglected to include (on purpose?) I set
the header SO PEOPLE CAN REPLY TO ME. Again, if YOU do not need it don;t
set it. In either case stop acting like a freak.

> Your method breaks the cross-posting model, breaks the reply method,
> breaks the ability to reply for people that use Usenet servers that
> don't have the security group.


Hum...works quite well for me. It seems that *your* news reader has problems
or the user or both...Now, some truth feels go doesn't it?

Imhotep


Posted by Leythos on October 10, 2006, 6:51 am
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imhotep@nospam.net says...
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > imhotep@nospam.net says...
> >> I do not demonize any solution. As I stated to lyther or whatever his
> >> name is: I do this because I do not have time to read ever newsgroup I
> >> post to. I usually post alert type posts...
>
> >>
> > And as was stated to you: Some servers don't carry the group you set the
> > follow-up too, some people don't read that group, but, if you don't mess
> > with the follow-up, then everyone doing a reply, with a proper usenet
> > client, will be visible to everyone else in the thread.
>
> Again, you miss the point, again I try to make you
> understand...merry-go-round anyone...

No, you just can't seem to understand that what you are doing impacts
others and not yourself, that it would NOT impact your ability to read
replies if you stopped doing it.

> ..and as stated by me, which you neglected to include (on purpose?) I set
> the header SO PEOPLE CAN REPLY TO ME. Again, if YOU do not need it don;t
> set it. In either case stop acting like a freak.

People don't reply to you, they reply to posts, and they can reply to
them, posted in any of the groups, and it will automatically reply in
ALL GROUPS POSTED, that's how Usenet Clients work - they post the reply
to all groups listed in the NewsGroups header. So, that means that if
you post a message to 6 groups, when a person replies, it sets a link to
all 6 groups and the reply is seen in ALL 6 GROUPS.

> > Your method breaks the cross-posting model, breaks the reply method,
> > breaks the ability to reply for people that use Usenet servers that
> > don't have the security group.
>
>
> Hum...works quite well for me. It seems that *your* news reader has problems
> or the user or both...Now, some truth feels go doesn't it?

My newsreader works, follows the standards and has no problems with your
posts, but you purposely ignore that you break replies, that you limit
the thread after it's started, and that some people don't have all the
groups or the one you set the follow-up to - which defeats your reason
for doing it, twice, in the first place.

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