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Access denied on Homeshare with FQDN, fine with Shortname Hmoll 08-29-2007
Posted by =?Utf-8?B?SG1vbGw=?= on August 29, 2007, 1:06 pm
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I'm getting a strange error where I am getting an access denied on my
homeshare. But only when using FQDN to define my server.

If I change from \servername.domain.local\homeshare$ to simply
\servername\homeshare$, everything works.

This is only happening on some Vista machines that are in the same OU as the
other Vista machines. This problem does not manifest itself on XP.

Any ideas why Vista doesn't work with FQDN defined homeshares.... or at
least on SOME of my machines?

NOTE: I can also *fix* this problem by leaving it an FQDN, but changing from
user-specific to Everyone or Authenticated Users on the Share ACL. Well,
that's not really fixing it....


Posted by on August 29, 2007, 2:01 pm
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Try adding file://*.domain.local, http://*.domain.local, and
https://*.domain.local to the Local Intranet security zone. This is in
Internet Explorer under Tools > Internet Options, Security tab. Click
to select Local Intranet and add the URLs under Sites.

Regards,

J Wolfgang Goerlich


> I'm getting a strange error where I am getting an access denied on my
> homeshare. But only when using FQDN to define my server.
>
> If I change from \servername.domain.local\homeshare$ to simply
> \servername\homeshare$, everything works.
>
> This is only happening on some Vista machines that are in the same OU as the
> other Vista machines. This problem does not manifest itself on XP.
>
> Any ideas why Vista doesn't work with FQDN defined homeshares.... or at
> least on SOME of my machines?
>
> NOTE: I can also *fix* this problem by leaving it an FQDN, but changing from
> user-specific to Everyone or Authenticated Users on the Share ACL. Well,
> that's not really fixing it....



Posted by =?Utf-8?B?SG1vbGw=?= on August 29, 2007, 2:42 pm
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Leider nicht....

The changes did not have an effect.

"jwgoerlich@gmail.com" wrote:

> Try adding file://*.domain.local, http://*.domain.local, and
> https://*.domain.local to the Local Intranet security zone. This is in
> Internet Explorer under Tools > Internet Options, Security tab. Click
> to select Local Intranet and add the URLs under Sites.
>
> Regards,
>
> J Wolfgang Goerlich
>
>
> > I'm getting a strange error where I am getting an access denied on my
> > homeshare. But only when using FQDN to define my server.
> >
> > If I change from \servername.domain.local\homeshare$ to simply
> > \servername\homeshare$, everything works.
> >
> > This is only happening on some Vista machines that are in the same OU as the
> > other Vista machines. This problem does not manifest itself on XP.
> >
> > Any ideas why Vista doesn't work with FQDN defined homeshares.... or at
> > least on SOME of my machines?
> >
> > NOTE: I can also *fix* this problem by leaving it an FQDN, but changing from
> > user-specific to Everyone or Authenticated Users on the Share ACL. Well,
> > that's not really fixing it....
>
>
>

Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on August 30, 2007, 2:23 am
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> Leider nicht....
>
> The changes did not have an effect.
>

Enable logon failure auditing on machine "servername" to see
why the authentication did not happen or failed.

Buy strange message I assume you only mean that you get the
widely recognized You do not have permissions to access . . .
popup message ?

> "jwgoerlich@gmail.com" wrote:
>
>> Try adding file://*.domain.local, http://*.domain.local, and
>> https://*.domain.local to the Local Intranet security zone. This is in
>> Internet Explorer under Tools > Internet Options, Security tab. Click
>> to select Local Intranet and add the URLs under Sites.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> J Wolfgang Goerlich
>>
>>
>> > I'm getting a strange error where I am getting an access denied on my
>> > homeshare. But only when using FQDN to define my server.
>> >
>> > If I change from \servername.domain.local\homeshare$ to simply
>> > \servername\homeshare$, everything works.
>> >
>> > This is only happening on some Vista machines that are in the same OU
>> > as the
>> > other Vista machines. This problem does not manifest itself on XP.
>> >
>> > Any ideas why Vista doesn't work with FQDN defined homeshares.... or at
>> > least on SOME of my machines?
>> >
>> > NOTE: I can also *fix* this problem by leaving it an FQDN, but changing
>> > from
>> > user-specific to Everyone or Authenticated Users on the Share ACL.
>> > Well,
>> > that's not really fixing it....
>>
>>
>>



Posted by =?Utf-8?B?SG1vbGw=?= on August 30, 2007, 8:18 am
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* Strange that on one machine it works, another it doesn't (despite being in
the same OS, same OU, same user)
* Strange that if I use shortname rather than FQDN, it works, but the more
reliable (for VPN users) FQDN fails
* Strange that if I change from user specific ACL on the share to Everyone
or Authenticated users, it works.

Ugggh. Security auditing gleaned nothing. I turned on Account logon, logon
and object access auditing. There were no failures that I could see.

Thanks for you help on this, I'm pulling my hair out.

I installed this Vista Business while at home. I then connected to the
corporate network the next day. That is the only difference in the setup. I
wonder if there were any default security policies setup when I slected
"Home", when I was at home.


"Roger Abell [MVP]" wrote:

> > Leider nicht....
> >
> > The changes did not have an effect.
> >
>
> Enable logon failure auditing on machine "servername" to see
> why the authentication did not happen or failed.
>
> Buy strange message I assume you only mean that you get the
> widely recognized You do not have permissions to access . . .
> popup message ?
>
> > "jwgoerlich@gmail.com" wrote:
> >
> >> Try adding file://*.domain.local, http://*.domain.local, and
> >> https://*.domain.local to the Local Intranet security zone. This is in
> >> Internet Explorer under Tools > Internet Options, Security tab. Click
> >> to select Local Intranet and add the URLs under Sites.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> J Wolfgang Goerlich
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm getting a strange error where I am getting an access denied on my
> >> > homeshare. But only when using FQDN to define my server.
> >> >
> >> > If I change from \servername.domain.local\homeshare$ to simply
> >> > \servername\homeshare$, everything works.
> >> >
> >> > This is only happening on some Vista machines that are in the same OU
> >> > as the
> >> > other Vista machines. This problem does not manifest itself on XP.
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas why Vista doesn't work with FQDN defined homeshares.... or at
> >> > least on SOME of my machines?
> >> >
> >> > NOTE: I can also *fix* this problem by leaving it an FQDN, but changing
> >> > from
> >> > user-specific to Everyone or Authenticated Users on the Share ACL.
> >> > Well,
> >> > that's not really fixing it....
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

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