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Posted by Bruce Hagen on January 3, 2007, 7:26 pm
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Hi Shenan,
Just an aside, I prefer to use this link for instructions to set up OE as
the newsreader.
The MS instructions specifically say to enter your e-mail address. (Here
comes the spam). This link tells how not to, and why.
Setting up Outlook Express Newsreader for MSNews:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~
>I must apologize for the formatting of my other message - it came out a
>little jumbled.
>
> Hopefully this one will come out formatted as intended.
>
> Jody wrote:
>> This post is not in the right place, but I tried to post a NEW
>> question (pop-up blocker, OK?!)
>>
>> Perhaps I should just stop reading and read the rules. But I need
>> to ask this because Microsoft never answered me after multiple
>> attempts and I felt it was relevant at least at a forum that is
>> Microsoft related.
>>
>> I am running XP SP2 Home and would like to know why I am getting
>> updates for Office and other administrative topics?
>>
>> I have since changed my setting to off for Updates but I check
>> Windows Update every other day.
>>
>> I am one of those "newbies" trying to find answers to my own
>> questions but after going from one site to another, I just quit. I have
>> all the "Dummy" books and I tried to find out what NTFS meant and
>> it isn't in any glossary I was checking and I wrote this as an example
>> to what I have been going thru to find the info I need. I get quite
>> frustrated and just quit.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>>
>> I came here because I, obviously, have Windows Defender and
>> this forum was described as a place that perhaps I might find out
>> answers but unfortunately I will end this reply more confused.
>>
>> By the way I went to argos.co and is there something I missed?
>>
>> I am now going to Richard's other site he mentioned and maybe
>> I will find some relevant info. And yes I would like to know what
>> a frigging script is and what it does but trying to find the answer
>> on Microsoft.com drove me crazier.
>>
>> I have been to other forums so I am not a complete novice and now I
>> running around in circles and driving anyone who might read this
>> crazy!
>>
>> Thank you and I really just need some direction on how to find
>> answers to questions.
>
> Wow... Okay. I have tried to clean up what you wrote and make it
> semi-coherent above. So I have a few questions for you concerning what
> you
> have posted and a few suggestions for learning...
>
> You are obviously (given your first statement) trying to utilize the
> newsgroups through the web interface. As anyone who frequents these
> groups
> will tell you, that is one of the worst ways to access this newsgroup. A
> better (and available to you - as you seem to be running Windows XP) way
> would be to use Outlook Express as your 'newsreader'. You can find
> instructions for this here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx
>
> Now that we have hopefully gotten you off that horrid web page interface
> for
> these groups, things might become easier for you.
>
> You asked why you are getting updates for Office and Windows XP (You have
> Windows XP Home with SP2...) That's a little bit of a broad question
> leaving out way too many details. Also, I can see, by reading the rest of
> your message, where you might have left out a word and meant to ask 'Why
> am
> I *not* getting updates'... But I might be jumping too much there. Let's
> go
> with the '... why I am getting updates for Office and other administrative
> topics? ...' question as written.
>
> You are getting updates because you are either visiting
> them or you have enabled automatic updates. Microsoft decided they would
> push all critical updates for their main products (Windows, Office, etc)
> in
> this way. That way it is like 'one-stop-shopping' for all of your
> Microsoft
> products. Getting updates is *not* a bad thing. Also you mention you
> have
> set your 'automatic updates' to off and you check 'every other day' for
> updates... That's a bit extreme... Microsoft releases new updates on a
> schedule... The second Tuesday of every month. So if you wait until the
> day
> updates - you just might find something. That would be January 9, 2007
> this
> time...
>
> I corrected your spelling above on NTFS. NFTS I do not believe has
> anything
> to do with Windows XP or Microsoft products and may not even be a valid
> acronym... NTFS on the other hand stands for 'NT File System' and you can
> read some basic information on it here:
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/NTFS.html
>
> Now you mentioned you came here 'obviously' because you had Windows
> Defender. I hate to be the one to tell you this - but that would be less
> than obvious to anyone and to be truthful - according to the support
> reference on Microsoft's website - this is NOT the newsgroup for Windows
> Defender. In fact - it specifically states that. See here:
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/default.mspx
>
>
> The proper newsgroups for Windows Defender are listed as these:
>
> Windows Defender newsgroups
> --------------------------------------------
> . Announcements
>
(http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/reader/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.private.security.spyware.announcements
> )
> . General questions
>
(http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/reader/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.private.security.spyware.general
> )
> . Installation questions
>
(http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/reader/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
> )
> . Application compatibility questions
>
(http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/reader/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat
> )
> . Networking questions
>
(http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/reader/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.private.security.spyware.networking
> )
> . Definition updates
>
(http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/newsgroups/reader/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.private.security.spyware.signatures
> )
>
> And at the very bottom, it says this (about this particular newsgroup -
> microsoft.public.security.homeusers):
> "For other security questions not related to Windows Defender like using a
> firewall, antivirus software, or security update questions, please visit
> the
> Security for Home Computer Users newsgroup."
>
> Which - to me anyway - pretty much says that you should post your Windows
> Defender questions in one of the groups above, but not the
> microsoft.public.security.homeusers, which is for 'other security question
> snot related to Windows Defender'...
>
> You also may want to look carefully and see this message is being
> cross-posted (posted to multiple groups at one time) to the following
> other
> newsgroups:microsoft.public.security.virus,
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,
> microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
>
> Yes - you can get answers to questions on this forum - but you must take
> time, take a deep breath, swallow a bit of your pride if necessary and
> post
> a complete and intelligible question. It's much like asking a question
> anywhere else, except you have to remember that the only one that actually
> can SEE the issue first-hand is you and it is up to you to describe it in
> detail to us.
>
> You also mentioned visiting 'argos.co' and I have NO CLUE as to why you
> would ever go there. Now I had to assume that was one of two sites...
> Either http://www.argos.com (and you did not type the 'm' in your haste)
> or
> http://www.argos.co.uk (and you neglected to type the .uk for whatever
> reason...) Neither one makes sense as to something you would visit, as
> the
> only mention of it in this newsgroup I find is from AJR (Richard) where he
> states, '... There is a fault in its' IE6 in the www.argos.co.uk web site
> causes that browser to bomb-out! ...' <-- and I cannot fathom what would
> lead you to desire to visit the page in question from that statement or
> those arising from it.
>
> Then you state you are going to '... Richard's other
> site he mentioned and maybe I will find some relevant info ...' <-- which
> makes me wonder even more why you would consider that a reference site
> from
> what Richard said in his post. It actually makes me feel you are not
> reading anything, but skimming and looking for links. You have to read
> and
> comprehend the stuff around those links too - in most cases. *smile* By
> the way, here is that thread in its entirety, if you wish to review and/or
> explain where you thought it said you should visit that site for any
> reason...
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_thread/thread/f37c3dcee24f0022/d38f008ebcb46546?tvc=2&q=#d38f008ebcb46546
>
>
> In any case - getting past that confusion for the moment we will continue
> with your post... You say - last thing above - that you '... really just
> need some direction on how to find answers to questions ...' Okay - I
> think
> that is possible. First thing is to know what you are looking for. Know
> what the trouble is and the stuff that surrounds that trouble. If you
> cannot see images on web pages, know that you cannot see those images
> using
> Internet Explorer 6.0 on a Windows XP Home system with SP2 installed and
> if
> the images are just not there or replaced with something like a box with a
> red x in the center...
>
> Once you know that (and that should all be obvious -
> as it is all stuff sitting in front of you) you should
> search for the answer. One of the best ways I know is
> utilizing google.
>
> Search using Google!
> http://www.google.com/
> (How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )
>
>
> So now you visit http://www.google.com/ and in the search field you might
> type in:
>
> Internet Explorer images shown as box with red x
>
> And search. There will be some hits that do not fit your case - but read
> through them...
>
> One hit that came up was:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/ietopten.mspx
>
> Which specifically mentions "Red x instead of pictures" and gives
> solutions
> to such a dilemma. If you hadn't gotten a hit, you would need to rethink
> the way you phrased your search, perhaps put quotes around certain things
> to
> make them one unit ("Internet Explorer" for example) and so on...
>
> You can also search these newsgroups for questions that have already been
> asked and quite possibly answered using another google tool: google
> groups.
>
> http://groups.google.com/
>
> Although I always use the advanced version:
> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search
>
> Same principle - more options.
>
>
> That pretty much clears out this post of yours...
>
> If you have more questions or wish to calrify some things - come back and
> respond to this message!
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
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