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security@home RJK 11-08-2006
Posted by =?Utf-8?B?Sm9keQ==?= on November 13, 2006, 9:54 pm
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This post is not in the right place, but I tried to post a NEW
question(pop-upblocker OK) Perhaps I should just stop reading and read the
rules. But I need to ask this because Microsoft never answered me after
multiple attempts and I felt it was relevant at least at a forum that is
Microsoft related.
I am running XP SP2 Home and would like to know why I am getting updates for
Office and other administrative topics? I have since changed my setting to
off for Updates but I check Windows Update every other day. I am one of
those "newbies". trying to find answers to my own questions but after going
from one site to another, I just quit. I have all the "Dummy" books and I
tried to find out what NFTS meant and it isn't in any glossery I was checking
and I wrote this as an example to what I have been going thru to find the
info I need. I get quite frustrated and just quit. Any suggestions would be
helpful. I came here because I, obviously, have Windows Defender and this
forum was described as a place that perhaps I might find out answers but
unfortunately I will end this reply more confused. By the way I went to
argos.co and is there something I missed? I am now going to Richard's other
site he mentioned and maybe I will find some relevant info. And yes I would
like to know what a frigging script is and what it does but trying to find
the answer on Microsoft.com drove me crazy-er. I have been to other forums
so I am not a complete novice and now I running around in circles and driving
anyone who might read this crazy!
Thank you and I really just need some direction on how to find answers to
questions.
Jody



"RJK" wrote:

> http://home20.inet.tele.dk/b_nice/index.htm
> This web-site contains lots of contradictions !
> ....and it would take a lot of TIME to work through some of the things he
> suggests - lots of which which could also cripple your PC.
>
> It's actually quite cunning, the web site itself is sort of succinct but, at
> almost every turn leads you off to somewhere, (where if you don't have lots
> of PC / OS and application software and/or Internet experience), you could
> end up getting your PC in a real mess.
>
> He criticizes "internet security" applications, and the text on his site
> could be misunderstood as giving advice to not use an internet security
> application at all ! ...then he hyperlinks you off to a site where you
> could end up taking advice to switch off XP services that you may need, by
> taking losts of time to manually work through XP services.
>
> Most home users don't implement common sense on the internet and SIMPLY DO
> NOT want to know what a visual basic script, ActiveX control, Java Applet
> actually is, and would rather trust their defenses to applications such as
> Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite.
>
> I wonder if the http://www.argos.co.uk web site loads and runs on B. Nice's
> PC ? :-)
>
> regards, Richard
>
> ....NG Flame certainly gets the adrenalin flowing !
>
>

Posted by Phil Weldon on November 13, 2006, 11:05 pm
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'Jody' wrote, in part:
| This post is not in the right place, but I tried to post a NEW
| question(pop-upblocker OK)
_____

Skimmed over once lightly, but not read.

Your post is so long any question you might have is hidden. Try a new post
that starts a new thread. Make sure the subject line includes the question
and that the question is ALSO included in the body of the post. Do not
include irrelevant information. Post only to the most relevant newsgroups.
More than two or three crossposts are rarely necessary.
Complaints and venting will reduce the number of helpful replies.

Phil Weldon

| This post is not in the right place, but I tried to post a NEW
| question(pop-upblocker OK) Perhaps I should just stop reading and read the
| rules. But I need to ask this because Microsoft never answered me after
| multiple attempts and I felt it was relevant at least at a forum that is
| Microsoft related.
| I am running XP SP2 Home and would like to know why I am getting updates
for
| Office and other administrative topics? I have since changed my setting
to
| off for Updates but I check Windows Update every other day. I am one of
| those "newbies". trying to find answers to my own questions but after
going
| from one site to another, I just quit. I have all the "Dummy" books and I
| tried to find out what NFTS meant and it isn't in any glossery I was
checking
| and I wrote this as an example to what I have been going thru to find the
| info I need. I get quite frustrated and just quit. Any suggestions would
be
| helpful. I came here because I, obviously, have Windows Defender and this
| forum was described as a place that perhaps I might find out answers but
| unfortunately I will end this reply more confused. By the way I went to
| argos.co and is there something I missed? I am now going to Richard's
other
| site he mentioned and maybe I will find some relevant info. And yes I
would
| like to know what a frigging script is and what it does but trying to find
| the answer on Microsoft.com drove me crazy-er. I have been to other
forums
| so I am not a complete novice and now I running around in circles and
driving
| anyone who might read this crazy!
| Thank you and I really just need some direction on how to find answers to
| questions.
| Jody
|
|
|
| "RJK" wrote:
|
| > http://home20.inet.tele.dk/b_nice/index.htm
| > This web-site contains lots of contradictions !
| > ....and it would take a lot of TIME to work through some of the things
he
| > suggests - lots of which which could also cripple your PC.
| >
| > It's actually quite cunning, the web site itself is sort of succinct
but, at
| > almost every turn leads you off to somewhere, (where if you don't have
lots
| > of PC / OS and application software and/or Internet experience), you
could
| > end up getting your PC in a real mess.
| >
| > He criticizes "internet security" applications, and the text on his site
| > could be misunderstood as giving advice to not use an internet security
| > application at all ! ...then he hyperlinks you off to a site where you
| > could end up taking advice to switch off XP services that you may need,
by
| > taking losts of time to manually work through XP services.
| >
| > Most home users don't implement common sense on the internet and SIMPLY
DO
| > NOT want to know what a visual basic script, ActiveX control, Java
Applet
| > actually is, and would rather trust their defenses to applications such
as
| > Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite.
| >
| > I wonder if the http://www.argos.co.uk web site loads and runs on B.
Nice's
| > PC ? :-)
| >
| > regards, Richard
| >
| > ....NG Flame certainly gets the adrenalin flowing !
| >
| >



Posted by Ted Zieglar on November 13, 2006, 11:28 pm
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What, exactly, is your question for the newsgroup? We invite you to be
concise.

We also invite you to pick one newsgroup for your post, instead of
cross-posting all over the place.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Jody wrote:
> This post is not in the right place, but I tried to post a NEW
> question(pop-upblocker OK) Perhaps I should just stop reading and read the
> rules. But I need to ask this because Microsoft never answered me after
> multiple attempts and I felt it was relevant at least at a forum that is
> Microsoft related.
> I am running XP SP2 Home and would like to know why I am getting updates for
> Office and other administrative topics? I have since changed my setting to
> off for Updates but I check Windows Update every other day. I am one of
> those "newbies". trying to find answers to my own questions but after going
> from one site to another, I just quit. I have all the "Dummy" books and I
> tried to find out what NFTS meant and it isn't in any glossery I was checking
> and I wrote this as an example to what I have been going thru to find the
> info I need. I get quite frustrated and just quit. Any suggestions would be
> helpful. I came here because I, obviously, have Windows Defender and this
> forum was described as a place that perhaps I might find out answers but
> unfortunately I will end this reply more confused. By the way I went to
> argos.co and is there something I missed? I am now going to Richard's other
> site he mentioned and maybe I will find some relevant info. And yes I would
> like to know what a frigging script is and what it does but trying to find
> the answer on Microsoft.com drove me crazy-er. I have been to other forums
> so I am not a complete novice and now I running around in circles and driving
> anyone who might read this crazy!
> Thank you and I really just need some direction on how to find answers to
> questions.
> Jody
>
>
>
> "RJK" wrote:
>
>> http://home20.inet.tele.dk/b_nice/index.htm
>> This web-site contains lots of contradictions !
>> ....and it would take a lot of TIME to work through some of the things he
>> suggests - lots of which which could also cripple your PC.
>>
>> It's actually quite cunning, the web site itself is sort of succinct but, at
>> almost every turn leads you off to somewhere, (where if you don't have lots
>> of PC / OS and application software and/or Internet experience), you could
>> end up getting your PC in a real mess.
>>
>> He criticizes "internet security" applications, and the text on his site
>> could be misunderstood as giving advice to not use an internet security
>> application at all ! ...then he hyperlinks you off to a site where you
>> could end up taking advice to switch off XP services that you may need, by
>> taking losts of time to manually work through XP services.
>>
>> Most home users don't implement common sense on the internet and SIMPLY DO
>> NOT want to know what a visual basic script, ActiveX control, Java Applet
>> actually is, and would rather trust their defenses to applications such as
>> Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite.
>>
>> I wonder if the http://www.argos.co.uk web site loads and runs on B. Nice's
>> PC ? :-)
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>> ....NG Flame certainly gets the adrenalin flowing !
>>
>>

Posted by RJK on November 14, 2006, 4:55 am
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It's usually me that skims through posts, then a few minutes later -
re-reads them and has to make corrections !
My comments are inline - (inserted into your post below)
....if you can find your post again that is ! :-)

regards, Richard



> This post is not in the right place, but I tried to post a NEW
> question(pop-upblocker OK) Perhaps I should just stop reading and read the
> rules. But I need to ask this because Microsoft never answered me after
> multiple attempts and I felt it was relevant at least at a forum that is
> Microsoft related.

...There is an inference here that you appear to think that by posting your
message here that Microsoft will answer your problems. This is not the
case - the MVP's (Microsoft Valued Profesionals) and other people who
respond and use these MS NG's are volunteers.

> I am running XP SP2 Home and would like to know why I am getting updates
> for
> Office and other administrative topics? I have since changed my setting
> to
> off for Updates but I check Windows Update every other day. I am one of
> those "newbies". trying to find answers to my own questions but after
> going
> from one site to another, I just quit. I have all the "Dummy" books and I
> tried to find out what NFTS meant and it isn't in any glossery I was
> checking
> and I wrote this as an example to what I have been going thru to find the
> info I need. I get quite frustrated and just quit.

Don't "Quit," use Google Search Engine, it's VERY good - and keep reading
! :-)
http://www.google.com ...e.g. NTFS (new technologies file system) will
give you thousands of hits !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS

Any suggestions would be
> helpful. I came here because I, obviously, have Windows Defender and this
> forum was described as a place that perhaps I might find out answers but
> unfortunately I will end this reply more confused.

Windows Defender, as you're probably already aware is an anti-malware
program. It's quite well behaved and I've not had problems running it
alongside Grisofts' Ewido (now Anti-Spyware), and other anti-spyware
applications. In my opinion it should not be considered a comprehensive
anti-spyware program / real-time scanner. A good one is here at
http://www.grisoft.com

By the way I went to
> argos.co and is there something I missed?

If http://www.argos.co.uk displays and works correctly in your web browser
window - then ok ...perhaps ! I use Argos as an example because it's
built using XP Javascript. If Active Scripting is switched off in the IE
Security Zone that's being applied to this web site, as it loads in your web
browser window, it will not correctly load and display. It's not wise to
have Active scripting enabled in the Internet zone, in case you stumble into
a nasty web site that's built to damage your PC / invade your privacy etc. -
have it enabled in the Trusted Sites zone and manually add web addresses,
(that you fully trust will NOT do nasty things to your PC), into the Trusted
Sites list so that their "scripts" (or 'code,' if you prefer, that the web
site is built with), can run properly.

I am now going to Richard's other
> site he mentioned and maybe I will find some relevant info. And yes I
> would
> like to know what a frigging script is and what it does but trying to find
> the answer on Microsoft.com drove me crazy-er.

Google !

I have been to other forums
> so I am not a complete novice and now I running around in circles and
> driving
> anyone who might read this crazy!
> Thank you and I really just need some direction on how to find answers to
> questions.
> Jody

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

regards, Richard

>
>
>
> "RJK" wrote:
>
>> home20.inet.tele.dk/b_nice/index.htm
>> This web-site contains lots of contradictions !
>> ....and it would take a lot of TIME to work through some of the things
>> he
>> suggests - lots of which which could also cripple your PC.
>>
>> It's actually quite cunning, the web site itself is sort of succinct but,
>> at
>> almost every turn leads you off to somewhere, (where if you don't have
>> lots
>> of PC / OS and application software and/or Internet experience), you
>> could
>> end up getting your PC in a real mess.
>>
>> He criticizes "internet security" applications, and the text on his site
>> could be misunderstood as giving advice to not use an internet security
>> application at all ! ...then he hyperlinks you off to a site where you
>> could end up taking advice to switch off XP services that you may need,
>> by
>> taking losts of time to manually work through XP services.
>>
>> Most home users don't implement common sense on the internet and SIMPLY
>> DO
>> NOT want to know what a visual basic script, ActiveX control, Java Applet
>> actually is, and would rather trust their defenses to applications such
>> as
>> Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite.
>>
>> I wonder if the http://www.argos.co.uk web site loads and runs on B.
>> Nice's
>> PC ? :-)
>>
>> regards, Richard
>>
>> ....NG Flame certainly gets the adrenalin flowing !
>>
>>


Posted by Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM on November 14, 2006, 10:39 am
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> This post is not in the right place, but I tried to post a NEW
> question(pop-upblocker OK) Perhaps I should just stop reading and read the
> rules. But I need to ask this because Microsoft never answered me after
> multiple attempts and I felt it was relevant at least at a forum that is
> Microsoft related.
> I am running XP SP2 Home and would like to know why I am getting updates
> for
> Office and other administrative topics? I have since changed my setting
> to
> off for Updates but I check Windows Update every other day. I am one of
> those "newbies". trying to find answers to my own questions but after
> going
> from one site to another, I just quit. I have all the "Dummy" books and I
> tried to find out what NFTS meant and it isn't in any glossery I was
> checking
> and I wrote this as an example to what I have been going thru to find the
> info I need. I get quite frustrated and just quit. Any suggestions would
> be
> helpful. I came here because I, obviously, have Windows Defender and this
> forum was described as a place that perhaps I might find out answers but
> unfortunately I will end this reply more confused. By the way I went to
> argos.co and is there something I missed? I am now going to Richard's
> other
> site he mentioned and maybe I will find some relevant info. And yes I
> would
> like to know what a frigging script is and what it does but trying to find
> the answer on Microsoft.com drove me crazy-er. I have been to other
> forums
> so I am not a complete novice and now I running around in circles and
> driving
> anyone who might read this crazy!
> Thank you and I really just need some direction on how to find answers to
> questions.
> Jody


Your post is confusing, but I take it your question is: "why I am getting
updates for
Office and other administrative topics?"

Is Office installed?
What other administrative topics?

Updates for Windows Defender signatures are distributed through Windows
Updates.

If you have chosen Microsoft Updates on the Windows Updates sites you will
get updates for Microsoft Office programs you have installed plus, perhaps,
other Microsoft programs.

I guess your long list of newsgroups is due to replying to RJK's post.

If you have trouble finding replies there's nothing we can do about it as
long as you use that terrible Web interface instead of Outlook Express.
Especially since you do not include an email address and apparently don't
check the Web interface' box to be notified of replies to your post.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.




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