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Posted by Ted Zieglar on November 9, 2006, 1:00 pm
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options "The only thing I do care about is the overselling nonsense..."
I don't see a problem with that, so long as you include a disclaimer:
ATTENTION - THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.
BTW, I found a few newsgroups that you forgot to cross-post to.
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Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."
B. Nice wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> I don't represent any company !
>> ...I do help lots of people, and friends, with messes they've got themsleves
>> into, from and on the internet, and if I thought for a moment that they
>> could, or would at least spend some time and try to understand some of the
>> basic internet security principles and good practices outlined on your site,
>> I would direct them there !
>> ...and I would direct them to
>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>> ...and lots of other reputable places but, along with scripts, ActiveX, XP
>> Java and Sun Java runtime, email attachments etc., correct use of IE
>> internet zones and other IE security settings ... I could go on and on
>> .....they simply don't want to know about the hosts file, or anything else !
>
> They don't need to know. All they need to do to reach a reasonable
> level of surfing security is to install a robust browser that is build
> for dealing with insecure networks like the internet and to be able to
> destinguish between sites they trust and sites they don't. If they
> can't do something as simple as that, they are better off pulling the
> plug.
>
> But of course, if people choose to stay ignorant, and therefore will
> get repeatedly burned, that's their choice. I offer some groundrules
> (that actually work) for those interrested - nothing else. People are
> free to take my advice and free to ignore it and look for advice at
> one of the gazillion other sites available. I really don't care.
>
> The only thing I do care about is the overselling nonsense, especially
> concerning features like "outbound control" and "making you invisible
> on the internet", that many "firewall software companies" can get away
> with on their web-sites.
>
>> They seem happier to be just furious with their PC and browser software
>> because the one or two websites they've tried to visit won't correctly load,
>> run, or display in their IE browser window. ...so they yank down their IE6
>> internet surity zone setting until it does load etc.
>> ...then there's the, (in my view), badly designed websites where the URL
>> changes every time one clicks a link to progress into the same site ...and
>> then there's the IE https window that opens from the "same" website that's
>> configured to be a new window with no address slot, and nothing in the title
>> bar and no clue, (other than right-clicking for properties), for the user,
>> (who can't remember or even grasp the concept of a right-click), that the
>> URL has yet again changed to one that's not yet been added into IE's trusted
>> sites zone and - hence an empty ssl window with "Done" on that Windows'
>> status bar !
>
> As long as people don't understand that IE is a security threat by
> design there is'nt that much to do.
>
>> My contention is simply that there are several internet security suite
>> applications that do quite well looking after lots of security aspects for
>> novice and/or stubborn users !
>
> I see marketing is doing a great job.
>
>> The reference on your web-site, to being
>> "pestered" with firewall alerts is not really fair - and is a little
>> misleading, in that a freshly installed firewall often has to be trained up,
>
> Which a novice of course is'nt able to do properly anyway.
>
> And what is your opinion about all the nonsense warnings about
> "attacks" that your "personal firewall" has hindered? A good firewall
> is there to protect you. Not to brag about stopping "attacks" that
> mostly are'nt real attacks anyway. It should just protect you and shut
> up.
>
> The only time it seems to keep quiet is when malware is bypassing it.
> At the time you really need it to speak up, it won't.
>
>> and in a short time will not bother the user quite so much. Here of course
>> we could get into the realms of novice users setting rules incorrectly e.g.
>> for outbound connections because he or she doesn't recognise exactly what's
>> trying to get out, ...or in !
>> ...but, there you go - I've said my piece again :-)
>
> True malware does'nt care about your security suites.
>
> /B. Nice
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