ms download sources - why so many?

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ms download sources - why so many? nweissma 04-27-2007
Posted by nweissma on April 27, 2007, 12:56 am
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I picked this up from one of ms's kb's:

1) If you have chosen not to use Microsoft Update, and you are running
Windows Vista, Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1) ...

Why would a user choose to not use ms update?


2) There are at least four sources for downloading ms products:

Download Center
Microsoft Update
Windows Update
Automatic Updates


the obvious question is, what, and why, is there a difference between the
sources?
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--Fool On The Hill


Posted by Tom Willett on April 27, 2007, 9:05 am
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MS Update updates Windows *and* Office.
Some people prefer to use Windows Update since it doesn't also do Office,
because of problems that have arisen when installing office updates,
especially those that may require having the disk available for part of the
update process.

|I picked this up from one of ms's kb's:
|
| 1) If you have chosen not to use Microsoft Update, and you are running
| Windows Vista, Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1) ...
|
| Why would a user choose to not use ms update?
|
|
| 2) There are at least four sources for downloading ms products:
|
| Download Center
| Microsoft Update
| Windows Update
| Automatic Updates
|
|
| the obvious question is, what, and why, is there a difference between the
| sources?
| --
|
|
| --Fool On The Hill
|



Posted by MAP on April 27, 2007, 4:05 pm
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nweissma wrote:
> I picked this up from one of ms's kb's:
>
> 1) If you have chosen not to use Microsoft Update, and you are running
> Windows Vista, Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
> ...
>
> Why would a user choose to not use ms update?
>
>
> 2) There are at least four sources for downloading ms products:
>
> Download Center
> Microsoft Update
> Windows Update
> Automatic Updates
>
>
> the obvious question is, what, and why, is there a difference between
> the sources?

To add to what Tom has said, you can install updates from another source
other than "windows update" and NOT have to deal with WGA spyware.
--
Mike Pawlak



Posted by cquirke (MVP Windows shell/use on April 27, 2007, 4:22 pm
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>There are at least four sources for downloading ms products:
>
> Download Center
> Microsoft Update
> Windows Update
> Automatic Updates
>
>the obvious question is, what, and why, is there a difference between the
>sources?

Download Center is prolly the best place to get complete, re-usable
copies of things that may or may not be relevant to the PC you are on.

Windows Update is a web site that will install appropriate Windows
updates for your system, directly.

Microsoft Update does the same as Windows Update, but for MS software
other than Windows as well as Windows itself.

Automatic Update pushes updates into your PC, whether you are visiting
the update web site(s) or not.


It's clear to me that there are different needs addressed by the
first, last, and middle two of these things. Foir example, if I want
to download a patch to carry arround on a USB stick to install on my
10 Windows 2000 SP4 PCs, and I wanted to download this material from
my SP SP2 PC, then only the first option will do.


The mystery is why there are both Windows Update and Microsoft Update
(i.e. why not just Microsoft Update, with perhaps a facility to
checkbox which MS products you wanted to update).

I think the answer goes about privacy and EULA - Microsoft Update has
to be more aware of what apps you have installed - and retractability,
in case MS is accused of leveraging its OS monopoly to provide more
seamless updates for its applications than competitors can.


What I want to know, is whether the website-based Windows and
Microsoft Update facilities, and Automatic Updates, are aware of each
other. I often see Automatic Updates (AU) popping up with "33% done"
when I'm still waiting for Microsoft Update to list what I can
download, and the situation gets even messier when installing IE 7 -
sometimes AU pops up a "Restart Now" prompt while the IE 7
installation is clearly still copying IE files into place.

If I accept the restart prompt, then IE will usually be broken from
the next boot onwards. Typically it will briefly appear and then
vanish without any error messages, when trying to run it. If I then
re-install IE 7 (by running the same installer) then it's fixed.

As mentioned, I often see AU popping up into action during WU or MU
sessions, and the progress of the two systems do not seem to relate to
each other at all. I really hope they aren't both independently
pulling down the same stuff and clogging C: with even more inactive
pre-install and backed-up versions of system code files.


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