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free virus protection bob 04-21-2007
Posted by User66 on April 21, 2007, 9:53 pm
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>
>
> | I have used Norton for more than 10 years, but can't afford it anymore.
> | Is there any free version that has both "On Demand" and "On Access" scanning?
> |
>
> Yes, I suggested it early on in this thread.
>
> Avira AntiVir -- http://www.free-av.com/
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

Thanks David.



Posted by David Craig on April 21, 2007, 9:21 pm
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Would you work 24x7 analyzing viral code and keeping honey traps monitored
for nothing? Symantec is very good and I would recommend it over the Norton
line, but the Norton line will update the software for fixes. The Symantec
versions are designed for places where IT will test and distribute the bug
fixes and enhancements. The signatures are updated for both and easily
updated manually when desired.

>>
>> | I have been using for couple of years now, the free version
>> | of AVG. Seems like a good anti-virus program. The free
>> | version updates daily. The e-mail setting is slightly clumsy,
>> | but works OK.
>> | http://free.grisoft.com/doc/Get+AVG+FREE/lng/us/tpl/v5
>> |
>> | I am testing now another one. It is called BitDefender.
>> | http://www.bitdefender.com/site/Downloads/
>> | Fairly simple to set it up. Not sure how long the free
>> | version will remain free.
>> |
>>
>> The free BitDefender is good. However it is only an "On Demand" scanner
>> and does not
>> support "On Access" scanning. Thus you can use it with another fully
>> installed anti virus
>> product but not as the primary anti virus application. The primary anti
>> virus application
>> needs to perform both "On Demand" and "On Access" scanning.
>>
>> Therefore BitDefender can supplement AVG but not replace it.
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
>> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>>
>>
>
> I have used Norton for more than 10 years, but can't afford it anymore.
> Is there any free version that has both "On Demand" and "On Access"
> scanning?
>



Posted by David H. Lipman on April 21, 2007, 9:32 pm
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| Would you work 24x7 analyzing viral code and keeping honey traps monitored
| for nothing? Symantec is very good and I would recommend it over the Norton
| line, but the Norton line will update the software for fixes. The Symantec
| versions are designed for places where IT will test and distribute the bug
| fixes and enhancements. The signatures are updated for both and easily
| updated manually when desired.
|

Actually I know quite a few people who "...work 24x7 analyzing viral code and
keeping honey
traps monitored for nothing". Well I must modify that to almost 24x7. :-)
However there are many good people that do this service for free and submit
their findings
to anti malware vendors.

Symantec (corp/enterprise) is better than the Norton (retail) branded software.
But the
engines and signatures are the same.

A big problem with Symantec is their PITA submission process. They limit
samples to no more
than 10 per email (no matter what size) and archive files with files within
count towards
that 10 maximum.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by David Craig on April 21, 2007, 10:46 pm
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I don't know why they limit it to 10 per email. I would think that such a
limit would be useful. If a customer is saving up that many for one
submission, they aren't really helping since it takes time to get all of
them together and by the time one company/person put them together others
will have submitted them. There is the human element too that if someone at
Symantec is going through a bunch of viral samples and the first five are
already know quantities, then they may not check the next five as carefully
being predisposed to assuming they are all known.

I never had problems making submissions when I found something, but I did
have the advantage of having an internal email address, so maybe the rules
didn't apply. I haven't found anything new recently. I am glad that Road
Runner and Comcast seem to have implemented fairly decent email filters, so
my junk email is very minimal.

>
> | Would you work 24x7 analyzing viral code and keeping honey traps
> monitored
> | for nothing? Symantec is very good and I would recommend it over the
> Norton
> | line, but the Norton line will update the software for fixes. The
> Symantec
> | versions are designed for places where IT will test and distribute the
> bug
> | fixes and enhancements. The signatures are updated for both and easily
> | updated manually when desired.
> |
>
> Actually I know quite a few people who "...work 24x7 analyzing viral code
> and keeping honey
> traps monitored for nothing". Well I must modify that to almost 24x7. :-)
> However there are many good people that do this service for free and
> submit their findings
> to anti malware vendors.
>
> Symantec (corp/enterprise) is better than the Norton (retail) branded
> software. But the
> engines and signatures are the same.
>
> A big problem with Symantec is their PITA submission process. They limit
> samples to no more
> than 10 per email (no matter what size) and archive files with files
> within count towards
> that 10 maximum.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>



Posted by David H. Lipman on April 22, 2007, 9:37 am
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| I don't know why they limit it to 10 per email. I would think that such a
| limit would be useful. If a customer is saving up that many for one
| submission, they aren't really helping since it takes time to get all of
| them together and by the time one company/person put them together others
| will have submitted them. There is the human element too that if someone at
| Symantec is going through a bunch of viral samples and the first five are
| already know quantities, then they may not check the next five as carefully
| being predisposed to assuming they are all known.
|
| I never had problems making submissions when I found something, but I did
| have the advantage of having an internal email address, so maybe the rules
| didn't apply. I haven't found anything new recently. I am glad that Road
| Runner and Comcast seem to have implemented fairly decent email filters, so
| my junk email is very minimal.
|


If you find one or two day, 10 is no problem. It isn't hard for me to submit 40
~ 90
samples.

The human element doesn't come into play until well after their automated
services perform
analysis on submissions and an individual file's status remains undetermined.
However their
automated services often "kick back" a submission for being over ten files or
not being
password protected. Often this is not the case and the replay email gives NO
indication
which submission was denied.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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