? about Trojans

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? about Trojans Diane 07-16-2005
Posted by Diane on July 16, 2005, 7:14 am
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I have NAV & ZAlarm installed and all the other anti-spyware used by most
folks on my WindowsXP Pro SP2. I am also on dialup.

This is my question. When I dialup & connect, I get a message that NAV has
blocked an intrusion attempt by a trojan. I open the NAV message window to
see if I can figure out what the trojan is but the message is cryptic and I
don't quite understand it. Bear in mind that I get this message even before
I open IE6.

Can infection by a trojan happen like this...merely connecting without the
browser even being open?

Thanks.

D.



Posted by David H. Lipman on July 16, 2005, 9:06 am
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| I have NAV & ZAlarm installed and all the other anti-spyware used by most
| folks on my WindowsXP Pro SP2. I am also on dialup.
|
| This is my question. When I dialup & connect, I get a message that NAV has
| blocked an intrusion attempt by a trojan. I open the NAV message window to
| see if I can figure out what the trojan is but the message is cryptic and I
| don't quite understand it. Bear in mind that I get this message even before
| I open IE6.
|
| Can infection by a trojan happen like this...merely connecting without the
| browser even being open?
|
| Thanks.
|
| D.
|


The question is in what direction ?

What is the full text of said cryptic message ?

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by David H. Lipman on July 16, 2005, 9:25 am
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ADDENDUM:

You can perform the following to make sure that your system does not already
have a Trojan.


Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --
http://www.ik-cs.com/programs/virtools/Multi_AV.exe

It is a self-extracting ZIP file that contains the Kixtart Script Interpreter {
http://kixtart.org Kixtart is CareWare } three batch files, five Kixtart
scripts, one Link
(.LNK) file, this PDF instruction file and two utilities; UNZIP.EXE and
WGET.EXE. It will
simplify the process of using; Sophos, Trend and McAfee Anti Virus Command Line
Scanners to
remove
viruses and various other malware.

C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT -- { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS}
This will bring up the initial menu of choices and should be executed in Normal
Mode. This
way all the components can be downloaded from each AV vendor’s web site.
The choices are; Sophos, Trend, McAfee, Exit the menu and Reboot the PC.

You can choose to go to each menu item and just download the needed files or you
can
download the files and perform a scan in Normal Mode. Once you have downloaded
the files
needed for each scanner you want to use, you should reboot the PC into Safe Mode
[F8 key
during boot] and re-run the menu again and choose which scanner you want to run
in Safe
Mode. It is suggested to run the scanners in both Safe Mode and Normal Mode.

When the menu is displayed hitting 'H' or 'h' will bring up a more comprehensive
PDF help
file.

To use this utility, perform the following...
Execute; Multi_AV.exe { Note: You must use the default folder C:\AV-CLS }
Choose; Unzip
Choose; Close

Execute; C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT
{ or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS }

NOTE: You may have to disable your software FireWall or allow WGET.EXE and/or
FTP.EXE to go
through your FireWall to allow them to download the needed AV vendor related
files.

* * * Please report back your results * * *



--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by Diane on July 16, 2005, 3:17 pm
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When it happens again, I'll note the whole message and report back. One
would think my pc would have symptoms of some sort, but it doesn't.

Thanks for the info about MULTI_AV.EXE

D.


>
> | I have NAV & ZAlarm installed and all the other anti-spyware used by
> most
> | folks on my WindowsXP Pro SP2. I am also on dialup.
> |
> | This is my question. When I dialup & connect, I get a message that NAV
> has
> | blocked an intrusion attempt by a trojan. I open the NAV message window
> to
> | see if I can figure out what the trojan is but the message is cryptic
> and I
> | don't quite understand it. Bear in mind that I get this message even
> before
> | I open IE6.
> |
> | Can infection by a trojan happen like this...merely connecting without
> the
> | browser even being open?
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> | D.
> |
>
>
> The question is in what direction ?
>
> What is the full text of said cryptic message ?
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>



Posted by Diane on July 16, 2005, 3:40 pm
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>
> | I have NAV & ZAlarm installed and all the other anti-spyware used by
> most
> | folks on my WindowsXP Pro SP2. I am also on dialup.
> |
> | This is my question. When I dialup & connect, I get a message that NAV
> has
> | blocked an intrusion attempt by a trojan. I open the NAV message window
> to
> | see if I can figure out what the trojan is but the message is cryptic
> and I
> | don't quite understand it. Bear in mind that I get this message even
> before
> | I open IE6.
> |
> | Can infection by a trojan happen like this...merely connecting without
> the
> | browser even being open?
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> | D.
> |
>
>
> The question is in what direction ?
>
> What is the full text of said cryptic message ?
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

Dave:

I went into NAV "reports" screen on my pc and found the following:

"Default Block Bla Trojan horse" blocked.

I then went to Symantec site and read about this menace. My system doesn't
exhibit any of the symptoms and is running perfectly fine. All patches and
updates to all my software has been done.

Apparently NAV has prevented the intrusion. There is a list of 10 attempts
or so over the last 6 months, but not on any regular basis, but it also
gives the DNS numbers of where the attempts are coming from. The times the
attempts take place are all when I log in to my ISP early in the morning.

Those reports certainly make interesting reading. I am just surprised that
this occurs before I even open the browser.

D.



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