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Posted by rubyjack on October 26, 2007, 11:29 am
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I have the following choices to install as anti-virus ware/suite (my
NortonWorks is expiring). The price ranges from $0 to $40 to install (all
legit, I have some on hand).
Norton SystemWorks
Norton 360
MacAfee 2007
Panda 2007
Kaspersky 6.0
Your help would be appreciated,
Dan Hacker
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Thousands of years ago cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never
forgotten this. -- Danbury Mint
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Posted by RJK on October 26, 2007, 2:25 pm
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Synmantecs' Norton has for sometime has been called bloatware, and if you
don't mind the significant system-slowdown that comes with it - it's quite
good. Another Norton minus, in my view, (in previous versions of Norton at
least), is that one ends up with TWO trusted sites lists to maintain, one in
IE, and one in Norton firewall !!
For many years in the past Mcafee VERY often caused nightmares i.e. it was
often very intolerant of most of the myriad OS/software mixes it found
itself installed into. (...dunno if that's true nowadays - Mcafee was so
awful - years ago - I've never revisited it), ...having said that I've
always been grateful for their free a/v CLS.
Panda, ...same as Norton, quite good but, really slows down, (even fast),
systems.
Kaspersky, lots of people rave about it - I found it nothing but trouble -
a year or so ago I tried their internet security suite in several systems
that were clean, tidy and well maintained. Kaspersky refused to perform on
all of them i.e. caused, lock-ups, crashes ...never got on well Kaspersky at
all. ...again, ...quite good free CLS from Kaspersky though :-)
AVG free (anti-virus only), is really good, minimal impact on system speed
and overhead, not quite as good a detection rate as NOD32 and others but,
one has to pay for NOD32 :-(
AVG anti-spyware is really good, (I pay for that), ....though Windows
Defender has to date, intercepted everything nasty heading my way before it
got anywhere near AVG anti-spyware !! ...and so many out there keep
criticizing Windows Defender !!
...Zonealarm free firewall is VERY good but, occasionally one has to fight
with it.
PrevX, mentioned (negatively) in here http://tibbar.blog.co.uk/ (made in
the UK) is quite good, it's advanced heuristics detection is quite good but,
as with ALL a/v/ a/malware software it often misses things !!
...Spybot Search and Destroy (and the Teatimer realtime scanner help - ),
...in a highly unusual fit of generousness, (is there such a word), a couple
of weeks ago, I donated £15 to Spybot S&D !!!
...I could go on and on and on but, won't !
...everybody has their own preferences :-)
...and however good your "multi-layered" approcah to internet defences, and
despite ones best efforts in "hardening up" a PC for internet use, (which is
of course attempting the impossible by trying to strike a balance between
safety, (crippling almost everything), and {usablility which often equates
into the the owner allowing in something nasty} !
regards, Richard
>I have the following choices to install as anti-virus ware/suite (my
> NortonWorks is expiring). The price ranges from $0 to $40 to install (all
> legit, I have some on hand).
>
> Norton SystemWorks
> Norton 360
> MacAfee 2007
> Panda 2007
> Kaspersky 6.0
>
> Your help would be appreciated,
> Dan Hacker
>
> --
>
> -----------
> Thousands of years ago cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never
> forgotten this. -- Danbury Mint
> -----------
>
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Posted by RJK on October 27, 2007, 2:52 pm
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Symantecs' Norton has for sometime has been called bloatware, and if you
don't mind the significant system-slowdown that comes with it - it's quite
good. Another Norton minus, in my view, (in previous versions of Norton at
least), is that one ends up with TWO trusted sites lists to maintain, one in
IE, and one in Norton firewall !!
For many years in the past Mcafee VERY often caused nightmares i.e. it was
often very intolerant of most of the myriad OS/software mixes it found
itself installed into. (...dunno if that's true nowadays - Mcafee was so
awful - years ago - I've never revisited it), ...having said that I've
always been grateful for their free a/v CLS.
Panda, ...same as Norton, quite good but, really slows down, (even fast),
systems.
Kaspersky, lots of people rave about it - I found it nothing but trouble -
a year or so ago I tried their internet security suite in several systems
that were clean, tidy and well maintained. Kaspersky refused to perform on
all of them i.e. caused, lock-ups, crashes ...never got on well Kaspersky at
all. ...again, ...quite a good free CLS from Kaspersky though :-)
AVG free (anti-virus only), is really good, minimal impact on system speed
and overhead, not quite as good a detection rate as NOD32 and others but,
one has to pay for NOD32 :-(
AVG anti-spyware is really good, (I pay for that), ....though Windows
Defender has to date, intercepted everything nasty heading my way before it
got anywhere near AVG anti-spyware !! ...and so many out there keep
criticizing Windows Defender !!
...Zonealarm free firewall is VERY good but, occasionally one has to fight
with it.
PrevX, mentioned (negatively) here http://tibbar.blog.co.uk/ (made in
the UK) is quite good, it's advanced heuristics detection is quite good but,
as with ALL a/v/ a/malware software it often misses things !!
...Spybot Search and Destroy (and the Teatimer realtime scanner help - ),
...in a highly unusual fit of generousness, (is there such a word), a couple
of weeks ago, I donated £15 to Spybot S&D !!!
Lavasoft Adaware (not to be confused with "adware"),
...I could go on and on and on but, won't !
...everybody has their own preferences :-)
However good your "multi-layered" approach to internet security, and
despite ones best efforts in "hardening up" a PC for internet use, (which is
of course attempting the impossible by trying to strike a balance between
safety, (crippling almost everything), and "usablility,"
that "multi-layered" approach is often thwarted and ruined by the owner of
that PC !!
regards, Richard
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Posted by Virus Guy on October 28, 2007, 10:47 am
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> Symantecs' Norton has for sometime has been called bloatware,
Norton Anti-virus started to become bloatware with version 2003.
Prior versions were pretty good. I continue to use NAV 2002.
Something that most people don't realize is that the older versions of
NAV (like 2001 and 2002) will update themselves the first time you run
them after installing them. Updates to NAV include virus definitions
as well as updates to the scan engine, allowing the old versions to be
identical to the new versions at being able to detect malware.
But generally I don't see AV software as the front-line defense that
it was say 3 years ago. Because of polymorphic viruses, as well as
the new versions of Storm that can de-activate your AV software
without it being obvious to you, AV software is becoming irrelavent as
a first line of protection.
The best use of AV software today is to use it as a system scanner
that you boot from a CD to periodically scan a hard drive.
Forget continuous, real-time interception / protection. Today's AV
software is not capable, or robust enough, for that job.
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Posted by Max M.Wachtel III on October 26, 2007, 9:12 pm
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> I have the following choices to install as anti-virus ware/suite
> (my NortonWorks is expiring). The price ranges from $0 to $40 to
> install (all legit, I have some on hand).
>
> Norton SystemWorks
> Norton 360
> MacAfee 2007
> Panda 2007
> Kaspersky 6.0
>
> Your help would be appreciated,
> Dan Hacker
>
If you are going to dump Norton,Add+Remove doesn't always work very
well. You may need to download their cleanup tool. I have heard good
things about Kaspersky. The others,I have tried and thought that they
seemed to take over ownership of my system. I like to keep things
simple. The free version of AntiVir works well for me. It has a very
good detection rate and seems light on resources.If you are going to
use a paid-version AntiVirus,NOD32 would be my choice hands down. You
should try using a more secure email client and browser(Thunderbird
and Firefox come to mind). Prevention is the key here. I have written
some pages that might be helpful(see below)
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Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html
Keep Clean http://max.shplink.com/keepingclean.html
Tools http://max.shplink.com/tools.html
Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email.
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