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WIN2000NT False prophets(!). MikesBrain 11-19-2005
Posted by MikesBrain on November 19, 2005, 7:21 am
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A friend (yes, really!) has a laptop with Win2000 v5.00 on it, and has been
on the web with out-of-date AV software. She has accumulated loads'v
pop-ups saying "Warning - your registry is corrupted. Go here [URL] and
download this and that, and run it or your machine will fall over" sort'v
stuff. Naturally, she doesn't accept their invitations, but the number of
these pests is annoying.
She's turned to me for some help, and I'm not having a lot of luck.
I've run Avast and Ad-Aware and Spy-Bot, all to no avail. Nor can I find any
reference to any text the pop-ups contain (URLs, etc) in the Registry.

Can anyone help, please?

--------------------
Beware of imitations

Posted by Martin Spencer-Ford on November 19, 2005, 7:41 am
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MikesBrain wrote:
> A friend (yes, really!) has a laptop with Win2000 v5.00 on it, and has been
> on the web with out-of-date AV software. She has accumulated loads'v
> pop-ups saying "Warning - your registry is corrupted. Go here [URL] and
> download this and that, and run it or your machine will fall over" sort'v
> stuff. Naturally, she doesn't accept their invitations, but the number of
> these pests is annoying.
> She's turned to me for some help, and I'm not having a lot of luck.
> I've run Avast and Ad-Aware and Spy-Bot, all to no avail. Nor can I find any
> reference to any text the pop-ups contain (URLs, etc) in the Registry.
>
> Can anyone help, please?
>
> --------------------
> Beware of imitations

Sounds like those poxy messenger adverts. You can safely disable the
service with control panel / admin tools / services

Look for the messenger service and right click it, then select stop, to
start with - if the pop-ups stop, and there are no side effects to the
laptop, then return services and messenger service, right click it and
select properties, then set automatic to disabled.

HTH
TpwUK

Posted by Steve Winograd [MVP] on November 19, 2005, 9:33 am
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>MikesBrain wrote:
>> A friend (yes, really!) has a laptop with Win2000 v5.00 on it, and has been
>> on the web with out-of-date AV software. She has accumulated loads'v
>> pop-ups saying "Warning - your registry is corrupted. Go here [URL] and
>> download this and that, and run it or your machine will fall over" sort'v
>> stuff. Naturally, she doesn't accept their invitations, but the number of
>> these pests is annoying.
>> She's turned to me for some help, and I'm not having a lot of luck.
>> I've run Avast and Ad-Aware and Spy-Bot, all to no avail. Nor can I find any
>> reference to any text the pop-ups contain (URLs, etc) in the Registry.
>>
>> Can anyone help, please?
>
>Sounds like those poxy messenger adverts. You can safely disable the
>service with control panel / admin tools / services
>
>Look for the messenger service and right click it, then select stop, to
>start with - if the pop-ups stop, and there are no side effects to the
>laptop, then return services and messenger service, right click it and
>select properties, then set automatic to disabled.
>
>HTH
>TpwUK

If the problem is "messenger spam" coming in from the Internet through
the Messenger service, simply disabling the service doesn't address
the more fundamental problems. The computer needs:

1. A firewall (software, hardware, or both) to protect it from all
types of undesired access by other Internet users.

2. All available critical Windows updates.

With those in place, it isn't necessary to disable the Messenger
service, which has legitimate uses on a LAN.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Posted by Martin Spencer-Ford on November 19, 2005, 9:54 am
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Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
>
>>MikesBrain wrote:
>>
>>>A friend (yes, really!) has a laptop with Win2000 v5.00 on it, and has been
>>>on the web with out-of-date AV software. She has accumulated loads'v
>>>pop-ups saying "Warning - your registry is corrupted. Go here [URL] and
>>>download this and that, and run it or your machine will fall over" sort'v
>>>stuff. Naturally, she doesn't accept their invitations, but the number of
>>>these pests is annoying.
>>>She's turned to me for some help, and I'm not having a lot of luck.
>>>I've run Avast and Ad-Aware and Spy-Bot, all to no avail. Nor can I find any
>>>reference to any text the pop-ups contain (URLs, etc) in the Registry.
>>>
>>>Can anyone help, please?
>>
>>Sounds like those poxy messenger adverts. You can safely disable the
>>service with control panel / admin tools / services
>>
>>Look for the messenger service and right click it, then select stop, to
>>start with - if the pop-ups stop, and there are no side effects to the
>>laptop, then return services and messenger service, right click it and
>>select properties, then set automatic to disabled.
>>
>>HTH
>>TpwUK
>
>
> If the problem is "messenger spam" coming in from the Internet through
> the Messenger service, simply disabling the service doesn't address
> the more fundamental problems. The computer needs:

Agreed, but by judging the OP, it looks as if this is a case of
repairing the system of another user by someone who at least does show
signs of knowing what they are doing, even if it is in the *wrong*
order. Hence just a quick KISS answer.
>
> 1. A firewall (software, hardware, or both) to protect it from all
> types of undesired access by other Internet users.

Agreed, blocking ports 1026-1033 seems to stop those blasted things.

>
> 2. All available critical Windows updates.
>
> With those in place, it isn't necessary to disable the Messenger
> service, which has legitimate uses on a LAN.

Agreed again, but the OP said nothing about a LAN being in use, and all
those patches and fixes in place is a must have, and a lesson that has
only just become easier for windows users with the auto-update features
of xp, Wonder what changed in XP to make the messenger service disabled
by default in sp1.

All the best Steve
Martin
(TpwUK)

Posted by Steve Winograd [MVP] on November 19, 2005, 10:13 am
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>>>>A friend (yes, really!) has a laptop with Win2000 v5.00 on it, and has been
>>>>on the web with out-of-date AV software. She has accumulated loads'v
>>>>pop-ups saying "Warning - your registry is corrupted. Go here [URL] and
>>>>download this and that, and run it or your machine will fall over" sort'v
>>>>stuff. Naturally, she doesn't accept their invitations, but the number of
>>>>these pests is annoying.
>>>>She's turned to me for some help, and I'm not having a lot of luck.
>>>>I've run Avast and Ad-Aware and Spy-Bot, all to no avail. Nor can I find any
>>>>reference to any text the pop-ups contain (URLs, etc) in the Registry.
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone help, please?
>>>
>>>Sounds like those poxy messenger adverts. You can safely disable the
>>>service with control panel / admin tools / services
>>>
>>>Look for the messenger service and right click it, then select stop, to
>>>start with - if the pop-ups stop, and there are no side effects to the
>>>laptop, then return services and messenger service, right click it and
>>>select properties, then set automatic to disabled.
>>
>> If the problem is "messenger spam" coming in from the Internet through
>> the Messenger service, simply disabling the service doesn't address
>> the more fundamental problems. The computer needs:
>
>Agreed, but by judging the OP, it looks as if this is a case of
>repairing the system of another user by someone who at least does show
>signs of knowing what they are doing, even if it is in the *wrong*
>order. Hence just a quick KISS answer.
>>
>> 1. A firewall (software, hardware, or both) to protect it from all
>> types of undesired access by other Internet users.
>
>Agreed, blocking ports 1026-1033 seems to stop those blasted things.
>
>> 2. All available critical Windows updates.
>>
>> With those in place, it isn't necessary to disable the Messenger
>> service, which has legitimate uses on a LAN.
>
>Agreed again, but the OP said nothing about a LAN being in use, and all
>those patches and fixes in place is a must have, and a lesson that has
>only just become easier for windows users with the auto-update features
>of xp, Wonder what changed in XP to make the messenger service disabled
>by default in sp1.
>
>All the best Steve
>Martin
>(TpwUK)

Thanks for your reply, Martin. I think that disabling the Messenger
service by default came in SP2:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2netwk.mspx#ELAA
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

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