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WHICH is the best Rootkit PREVENTION software ?
WHICH is the best Rootkit PREVENTION software ?

WHICH is the best Rootkit PREVENTION software ?

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WHICH is the best Rootkit PREVENTION software ? RJK 01-04-2007
Posted by RJK on January 4, 2007, 5:52 pm
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Having spent most of the day on the web IE reading about rootkits !

Bearing in mind that an increasing number of malware vendors are using
rootkits to hide their adware and spyware rubbish on peoples machines, and
seeing as once the stuff has buried itself into ones OS - and is then
difficult or impossible to properly remove,
...and bearing in mind that it's HIGHLY desirable for a real-time
anti-malware scanner to spot the crap and block it BEFORE it gets into a PC,
even though signatures don't lend themselves to this end, and existing
detection methods are being "enhanced," and others are being developed.
...and bearing in mind that low-life Russian, and other Eastern European
criminals are buying zero-day exploits malware, and rapidly gettings as much
use out of it before the major software houses arm people against it.....

..from MS http://research.microsoft.com/rootkit/#Introduction
Microsoft's Strider Ghostbuster project will probably lead the way in
providing help on how to defeat rootkits and removing spyware. Microsofts
Strider Ghostbuster project was originally not meant to handle rootkits and
only focus on other spyware, but the recent surge of rootkit attacks has
changed the focus of the Strider Ghostbuster technical team which now
includes defeating rootkit as an important objective
Intel has decided to show the software vendors how to defeat rootkits in a
foolproof manner. Intel is introducing a hardware based rootkit detection
kit which will sit on PC Windows based motherboards and detect any anamalous
behavior that could be triggered by rootkits. This is a new and novel
approach to defeating rootkits.

...from http://www.byte.com/documents/s=9988/byt1164556510138/
Microsoft also has included a security feature called Kernel Patch
Protection, or Patch Guard, in the 64-bit versions of its Windows OS. Patch
Guard monitors the kernel and detects attempts by other code to intercept
and modify kernel code. Microsoft says this feature is designed to help
protect the OS from malware and from legitimate software that may
destabilize the OS. At press time, Microsoft was meeting with third-party
security software vendors about APIs to allow security software to work
around Patch Guard.

http://www.f-secure.com/blacklight/blacklight.html
is free but, apparrantly it only detect's "some" rootkits, AFTER they've
burrowed into your OS !

http://prevx.com/
looks VERY good, and I'm currently running it's 32 day trial.
...in case you've been mislead about PrevX :-
http://www.scmagazine.com/asia/news/article/604187/rootkit-leaves-false-trail-accuse-prevx-infections/

...anyway, WHICH is the best root-kit PREVENTION, (from it getting into a PC
in the first place), software out there ?
...or if I buy a 64 bit cpu, will I never get a rootkit ?...<rofl> ....

regards, Richard












Posted by David H. Lipman on January 4, 2007, 6:07 pm
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| Having spent most of the day on the web IE reading about rootkits !
|
| Bearing in mind that an increasing number of malware vendors are using
| rootkits to hide their adware and spyware rubbish on peoples machines, and
| seeing as once the stuff has buried itself into ones OS - and is then
| difficult or impossible to properly remove,
| ...and bearing in mind that it's HIGHLY desirable for a real-time
| anti-malware scanner to spot the crap and block it BEFORE it gets into a PC,
| even though signatures don't lend themselves to this end, and existing
| detection methods are being "enhanced," and others are being developed.
| ...and bearing in mind that low-life Russian, and other Eastern European
| criminals are buying zero-day exploits malware, and rapidly gettings as much
| use out of it before the major software houses arm people against it.....
|
| ..from MS http://research.microsoft.com/rootkit/#Introduction
| Microsoft's Strider Ghostbuster project will probably lead the way in
| providing help on how to defeat rootkits and removing spyware. Microsofts
| Strider Ghostbuster project was originally not meant to handle rootkits and
| only focus on other spyware, but the recent surge of rootkit attacks has
| changed the focus of the Strider Ghostbuster technical team which now
| includes defeating rootkit as an important objective
| Intel has decided to show the software vendors how to defeat rootkits in a
| foolproof manner. Intel is introducing a hardware based rootkit detection
| kit which will sit on PC Windows based motherboards and detect any anamalous
| behavior that could be triggered by rootkits. This is a new and novel
| approach to defeating rootkits.
|
| ...from http://www.byte.com/documents/s=9988/byt1164556510138/
| Microsoft also has included a security feature called Kernel Patch
| Protection, or Patch Guard, in the 64-bit versions of its Windows OS. Patch
| Guard monitors the kernel and detects attempts by other code to intercept
| and modify kernel code. Microsoft says this feature is designed to help
| protect the OS from malware and from legitimate software that may
| destabilize the OS. At press time, Microsoft was meeting with third-party
| security software vendors about APIs to allow security software to work
| around Patch Guard.
|
| http://www.f-secure.com/blacklight/blacklight.html
| is free but, apparrantly it only detect's "some" rootkits, AFTER they've
| burrowed into your OS !
|
| http://prevx.com/
| looks VERY good, and I'm currently running it's 32 day trial.
| ...in case you've been mislead about PrevX :-
|
http://www.scmagazine.com/asia/news/article/604187/rootkit-leaves-false-trail-accuse-prevx-infections/
|
| ...anyway, WHICH is the best root-kit PREVENTION, (from it getting into a PC
| in the first place), software out there ?
| ...or if I buy a 64 bit cpu, will I never get a rootkit ?...<rofl> ....
|
| regards, Richard
|

None of the above...

Practicing Safe Hex is the*best* preventative measure for preventing RootKits.

This includes using a top rated anti virus application that is fully installed
and provided
"On Access" scanning.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by William on January 4, 2007, 6:20 pm
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on 04 Jan 2007, something possessed RJK to write:

> Having spent most of the day on the web IE reading about rootkits !
>
> Bearing in mind that an increasing number of malware vendors are
> using rootkits to hide their adware and spyware rubbish on peoples
> machines, and seeing as once the stuff has buried itself into ones OS
> - and is then difficult or impossible to properly remove,
> ...and bearing in mind that it's HIGHLY desirable for a real-time
> anti-malware scanner to spot the crap and block it BEFORE it gets into
> a PC, even though signatures don't lend themselves to this end, and
> existing detection methods are being "enhanced," and others are being
> developed. ...and bearing in mind that low-life Russian, and other
> Eastern European criminals are buying zero-day exploits malware, and
> rapidly gettings as much use out of it before the major software
> houses arm people against it.....
>
> ..from MS http://research.microsoft.com/rootkit/#Introduction
> Microsoft's Strider Ghostbuster project will probably lead the way in
> providing help on how to defeat rootkits and removing spyware.
> Microsofts Strider Ghostbuster project was originally not meant to
> handle rootkits and only focus on other spyware, but the recent surge
> of rootkit attacks has changed the focus of the Strider Ghostbuster
> technical team which now includes defeating rootkit as an important
> objective Intel has decided to show the software vendors how to defeat
> rootkits in a foolproof manner. Intel is introducing a hardware based
> rootkit detection kit which will sit on PC Windows based motherboards
> and detect any anamalous behavior that could be triggered by rootkits.
> This is a new and novel approach to defeating rootkits.
>
> ...from http://www.byte.com/documents/s=9988/byt1164556510138/
> Microsoft also has included a security feature called Kernel Patch
> Protection, or Patch Guard, in the 64-bit versions of its Windows OS.
> Patch Guard monitors the kernel and detects attempts by other code to
> intercept and modify kernel code. Microsoft says this feature is
> designed to help protect the OS from malware and from legitimate
> software that may destabilize the OS. At press time, Microsoft was
> meeting with third-party security software vendors about APIs to allow
> security software to work around Patch Guard.
>
> http://www.f-secure.com/blacklight/blacklight.html
> is free but, apparrantly it only detect's "some" rootkits, AFTER
> they've burrowed into your OS !
>
> http://prevx.com/
> looks VERY good, and I'm currently running it's 32 day trial.
> ...in case you've been mislead about PrevX :-
> http://www.scmagazine.com/asia/news/article/604187/rootkit-leaves-false
> -trail-accuse-prevx-infections/
>
> ...anyway, WHICH is the best root-kit PREVENTION, (from it getting
> into a PC in the first place), software out there ?
> ...or if I buy a 64 bit cpu, will I never get a rootkit ?...<rofl>
> ....
>
> regards, Richard
The best rootkit prevention is an informed end-user and running under a
limited account with limited previledges. Seriously, even with the 64-
bit OS, if there's collaboration with AV-vendors to work around that
blocking, than I'm sure some genious code-writer will be able to use that
vulnerability to get his/her own rootkit through.

With that said, I haven't tried GMER yet, but I've had good results with
sysinternals rootkitrevealer.

Regards,

Will

Posted by RJK on January 4, 2007, 6:33 pm
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I've got GMER, it looks pretty much the same as previous "hidden file /
process revealers," unless I've missed something somewhere !
...then again, people do seem to be raving about it - so perhaps it does
something special !
GMER and sysinternals are of course only of use AFTER something nasty has
implanted itself into ones PC,

I want a 100% effective / PREVENTATIVE internet security suite ! ...which
apparantly doesn't exist !

...thinking about it, I actually do have one, e.g. every time I switch it
off and go to bed !!!

...as David H. Lipman said, "never connect...." bless him .... I KNEW
that!!!!!!!!

regards, Richard


> on 04 Jan 2007, something possessed RJK to write:
>
>> Having spent most of the day on the web IE reading about rootkits !
>>
>> Bearing in mind that an increasing number of malware vendors are
>> using rootkits to hide their adware and spyware rubbish on peoples
>> machines, and seeing as once the stuff has buried itself into ones OS
>> - and is then difficult or impossible to properly remove,
>> ...and bearing in mind that it's HIGHLY desirable for a real-time
>> anti-malware scanner to spot the crap and block it BEFORE it gets into
>> a PC, even though signatures don't lend themselves to this end, and
>> existing detection methods are being "enhanced," and others are being
>> developed. ...and bearing in mind that low-life Russian, and other
>> Eastern European criminals are buying zero-day exploits malware, and
>> rapidly gettings as much use out of it before the major software
>> houses arm people against it.....
>>
>> ..from MS http://research.microsoft.com/rootkit/#Introduction
>> Microsoft's Strider Ghostbuster project will probably lead the way in
>> providing help on how to defeat rootkits and removing spyware.
>> Microsofts Strider Ghostbuster project was originally not meant to
>> handle rootkits and only focus on other spyware, but the recent surge
>> of rootkit attacks has changed the focus of the Strider Ghostbuster
>> technical team which now includes defeating rootkit as an important
>> objective Intel has decided to show the software vendors how to defeat
>> rootkits in a foolproof manner. Intel is introducing a hardware based
>> rootkit detection kit which will sit on PC Windows based motherboards
>> and detect any anamalous behavior that could be triggered by rootkits.
>> This is a new and novel approach to defeating rootkits.
>>
>> ...from http://www.byte.com/documents/s=9988/byt1164556510138/
>> Microsoft also has included a security feature called Kernel Patch
>> Protection, or Patch Guard, in the 64-bit versions of its Windows OS.
>> Patch Guard monitors the kernel and detects attempts by other code to
>> intercept and modify kernel code. Microsoft says this feature is
>> designed to help protect the OS from malware and from legitimate
>> software that may destabilize the OS. At press time, Microsoft was
>> meeting with third-party security software vendors about APIs to allow
>> security software to work around Patch Guard.
>>
>> http://www.f-secure.com/blacklight/blacklight.html
>> is free but, apparrantly it only detect's "some" rootkits, AFTER
>> they've burrowed into your OS !
>>
>> http://prevx.com/
>> looks VERY good, and I'm currently running it's 32 day trial.
>> ...in case you've been mislead about PrevX :-
>> http://www.scmagazine.com/asia/news/article/604187/rootkit-leaves-false
>> -trail-accuse-prevx-infections/
>>
>> ...anyway, WHICH is the best root-kit PREVENTION, (from it getting
>> into a PC in the first place), software out there ?
>> ...or if I buy a 64 bit cpu, will I never get a rootkit ?...<rofl>
>> ....
>>
>> regards, Richard
> The best rootkit prevention is an informed end-user and running under a
> limited account with limited previledges. Seriously, even with the 64-
> bit OS, if there's collaboration with AV-vendors to work around that
> blocking, than I'm sure some genious code-writer will be able to use that
> vulnerability to get his/her own rootkit through.
>
> With that said, I haven't tried GMER yet, but I've had good results with
> sysinternals rootkitrevealer.
>
> Regards,
>
> Will


Posted by =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?= on January 5, 2007, 11:59 am
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"RJK" wrote:

> I want a 100% effective / PREVENTATIVE internet security suite ! ...which
> apparantly doesn't exist !
>

Hope some days your dream comes true :-))))))




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