Virus Checking doc, rtf or txt files

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Virus Checking doc, rtf or txt files W. Watson 12-15-2006
Posted by W. Watson on December 15, 2006, 6:37 am
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Is it really possible for a virus to appear in one the above file types, or
is it that the virus is part of an extended suffix like abc.doc.trouble?
That is, it really isn't a doc file at all, but some program other than doc
will get launched when opened.

Posted by Malke on December 15, 2006, 7:56 am
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W. Watson wrote:

> Is it really possible for a virus to appear in one the above file
> types, or is it that the virus is part of an extended suffix like
> abc.doc.trouble? That is, it really isn't a doc file at all, but some
> program other than doc will get launched when opened.

Certainly you can have a virus in a *.doc file since that is a MS Word
format and not plain text. There are many macro viruses for Word.

If the *.rtf file contains macros, you could get a virus from it.

Plain text files are just that - plain text and have nothing to execute
(like macros) so you aren't at risk from them.

Malke
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Posted by kurt wismer on December 15, 2006, 7:58 am
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W. Watson wrote:
> Is it really possible for a virus to appear in one the above file types,
> or is it that the virus is part of an extended suffix like
> abc.doc.trouble? That is, it really isn't a doc file at all, but some
> program other than doc will get launched when opened.

it really is possible for doc files... doc files used by microsoft word
use the OLE2 file format which is in actually more like a self-contained
file system with it's own allocation tables, it's own fragmentation
problems, and of course with both data *and* code... the code is in the
form of a type of program called a macro... have you not heard of macro
viruses?

with rtf it's possible that the rtf file is just a mislabeled doc file
(there are some macro viruses that will save as a doc even if you try to
save as an rtf)..

txt files generally aren't a problem in and of themselves...

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now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

Posted by W. Watson on December 15, 2006, 12:07 pm
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kurt wismer wrote:
> W. Watson wrote:
>
>> Is it really possible for a virus to appear in one the above file
>> types, or is it that the virus is part of an extended suffix like
>> abc.doc.trouble? That is, it really isn't a doc file at all, but some
>> program other than doc will get launched when opened.
>
>
> it really is possible for doc files... doc files used by microsoft word
> use the OLE2 file format which is in actually more like a self-contained
> file system with it's own allocation tables, it's own fragmentation
> problems, and of course with both data *and* code... the code is in the
> form of a type of program called a macro... have you not heard of macro
> viruses?
>
> with rtf it's possible that the rtf file is just a mislabeled doc file
> (there are some macro viruses that will save as a doc even if you try to
> save as an rtf)..
>
> txt files generally aren't a problem in and of themselves...
>
Ah, that's the ticket. Macros. I'd forgotten about their possible presence
that you and the preceding respondent mentioned.

That clears that up. Thanks.

Posted by David J. Craig on December 15, 2006, 12:08 pm
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A virus can be located in a file with the .txt extension. It requires
another program to execute it since the extension is wrong for the OS to try
and execute it with the normal mechanisms, but a program that calls
CreateProcess can execute it. Sometimes files that appear as .txt may have
a .txt.exe type double extension to try and fool the user.

> W. Watson wrote:
>> Is it really possible for a virus to appear in one the above file types,
>> or is it that the virus is part of an extended suffix like
>> abc.doc.trouble? That is, it really isn't a doc file at all, but some
>> program other than doc will get launched when opened.
>
> it really is possible for doc files... doc files used by microsoft word
> use the OLE2 file format which is in actually more like a self-contained
> file system with it's own allocation tables, it's own fragmentation
> problems, and of course with both data *and* code... the code is in the
> form of a type of program called a macro... have you not heard of macro
> viruses?
>
> with rtf it's possible that the rtf file is just a mislabeled doc file
> (there are some macro viruses that will save as a doc even if you try to
> save as an rtf)..
>
> txt files generally aren't a problem in and of themselves...
>
> --
> "it's not the right time to be sober
> now the idiots have taken over
> spreading like a social cancer,
> is there an answer?"



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