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Posted by jen on April 27, 2008, 7:45 pm
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> says...
>> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
>> *.public*
> Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
> root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
> the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
> Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
> private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
> access
> it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
> Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
> provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
> limit
> you monthly byte count, etc....
> Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
> Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with
> a
> web interface to it also.
You're the one missing the point ;) It's very simple, really...
The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
Do your homewark!
-jen
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Posted by Leythos on April 27, 2008, 7:53 pm
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says...
> > says...
> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
> >> *.public*
> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
> > access
> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
> > limit
> > you monthly byte count, etc....
> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with
> > a
> > web interface to it also.
>
> You're the one missing the point ;) It's very simple, really...
> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
> Do your homewark!
Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the
defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers
where private servers allow public connections.
Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
--
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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Posted by jen on April 27, 2008, 9:54 pm
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > says...
>> > says...
>> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
>> >> *.public*
>> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's
>> > the
>> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the
>> > infrastructure,
>> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
>> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have
>> > a
>> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
>> > access
>> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
>> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every
>> > Usenet
>> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
>> > limit
>> > you monthly byte count, etc....
>> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use
>> > as
>> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet
>> > with
>> > a
>> > web interface to it also.
>> You're the one missing the point ;) It's very simple, really...
>> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period.
>> I
>> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
>> Do your homewark!
> Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the
> defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers
> where private servers allow public connections.
> Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft
does *not* peer with *any* other newsservers, therefore
msnews.microsoft.com is *not* a part of Usenet, period. It appears you
cannot understand simple logic...
Case closed.
-jen
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Posted by Leythos on April 28, 2008, 6:30 am
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> > says...
> >> > says...
> >> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
> >> >> *.public*
> >> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's
> >> > the
> >> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the
> >> > infrastructure,
> >> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
> >> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have
> >> > a
> >> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
> >> > access
> >> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
> >> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every
> >> > Usenet
> >> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some
> >> > limit
> >> > you monthly byte count, etc....
> >> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use
> >> > as
> >> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet
> >> > with
> >> > a
> >> > web interface to it also.
> >> You're the one missing the point ;) It's very simple, really...
> >> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period.
> >> I
> >> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
> >> Do your homewark!
> > Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on the
> > defined structure, and it could encompass public and private servers
> > where private servers allow public connections.
> > Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
>
> Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft
> does *not* peer with *any* other newsservers, therefore
> msnews.microsoft.com is *not* a part of Usenet, period. It appears you
> cannot understand simple logic...
> Case closed.
Yes, MS does peer with other servers. I post to a non-MS Usenet server,
my posts show up on the MS servers as they peer with outside sources.
You can apologize now.
--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Posted by jen on April 28, 2008, 9:09 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > says...
>> > says...
>> >> > jen@example.com
>> >> > says...
>> >> >> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their
>> >> >> *.public*
>> >> > Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service,
>> >> > it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the
>> >> > infrastructure,
>> >> > the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.
>> >> > Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they
>> >> > have
>> >> > a
>> >> > private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to
>> >> > access
>> >> > it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.
>> >> > Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every
>> >> > Usenet
>> >> > provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction,
>> >> > some
>> >> > limit
>> >> > you monthly byte count, etc....
>> >> > Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all
>> >> > use
>> >> > as
>> >> > Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet
>> >> > with
>> >> > a
>> >> > web interface to it also.
>> >> You're the one missing the point ;) It's very simple, really...
>> >> The NNTP *protocal* That MS' newsserver uses IS NOT USENET,
>> >> period.
>> >> I
>> >> see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...
>> >> Do your homewark!
>> > Do your homework yourself. Usenet is what is available, based on
>> > the
>> > defined structure, and it could encompass public and private
>> > servers
>> > where private servers allow public connections.
>> > Here is a link to what you should understand about Usenet:
>> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/
>> Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up). Microsoft
>> does *not* peer with *any* other newsservers, therefore
>> msnews.microsoft.com is *not* a part of Usenet, period. It appears
>> you
>> cannot understand simple logic...
>> Case closed.
> Yes, MS does peer with other servers. I post to a non-MS Usenet
> server,
> my posts show up on the MS servers as they peer with outside sources.
> You can apologize now.
I too, can post to MS newsgroups from my ISP's newsserver if I choose
to... That only means your newsserver admin has added the
microsoft.public.* hierarchy to their newsserver, *Not that they PEER
with msnews.microsoft.com. Sheesh!
"For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public
newsgroup hierarchy and made it *available to anyone ON the Usenet*(my
emphasis)".
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;newswhelp
Can you not comprehend this?:
[FAQ] How to add the microsoft.* hierarchy to a news server:
Last-modified: 2007/08/02
Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft
products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out
what your peers think and getting information from people who use the
same products and technologies you use.
The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on
Usenet for a number of years.
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt
I repeat, *Usenet is a peer to peer network of "servers"(look it up).
Microsoft
does *NOT* peer with *any* other newsservers*, therefore Microsoft *is
not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public.* groups
"available to anyone ON the Usenet". Sink in yet? Come back when you
can comprehend simple logic ;)
-jen(not a name)
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