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Posted by jen on April 26, 2008, 6:17 pm
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> says...
>> > says...
>> >> > jen@example.com
>> >> > says...
>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted
>> >> >> Sat,
>> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> 5
>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum
>> >> >> ;)
>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you
>> >> > should
>> >> > look
>> >> > at dates and threading yourself.
>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ;) The OP(Original Poster)
>> >> that
>> >> the
>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>> >> 5th.
>> >> Sheesh!
>> >> FYI the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/a72164b67227ee0d/8df314c6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it
>> certainly
>> is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
>> ATM.
>> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.
> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real
> Usenet
> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to
> the
> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
> server owned by MS.
> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.
> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet
> is
> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
> that you want.
I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not
;) If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then
Google would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few
servers(including mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to
see where an article is being posted from, if you know how, that is ;)
Microsoft does *not* peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a
part of Usenet, peroid. Do your homework...
-jen
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Posted by pcbutts1 [MS MVP] on April 26, 2008, 8:25 pm
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Umm Jen, you are arguing with a troll. Be careful he might start stalking
you like he does me.
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>> says...
>>> > says...
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat,
>>> >> >> Apr
>>> >> >> 5
>>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum ;)
>>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should
>>> >> > look
>>> >> > at dates and threading yourself.
>>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ;) The OP(Original Poster) that
>>> >> the
>>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>>> >> 5th.
>>> >> Sheesh!
>>> >> FYI the thread:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/a72164b67227ee0d/8df314c6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
>>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly
>>> is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
>>> ATM.
>>> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
>> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
>> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.
>> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet
>> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the
>> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
>> server owned by MS.
>> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.
>> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is
>> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
>> that you want.
>
> I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not ;)
> If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then Google
> would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few servers(including
> mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an article
> is being posted from, if you know how, that is ;) Microsoft does *not*
> peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a part of Usenet, peroid.
> Do your homework...
>
> -jen
>
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Posted by FromTheRafters on April 26, 2008, 10:13 pm
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>> says...
>>> > says...
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat,
>>> >> >> Apr
>>> >> >> 5
>>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum ;)
>>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should
>>> >> > look
>>> >> > at dates and threading yourself.
>>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ;) The OP(Original Poster) that
>>> >> the
>>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>>> >> 5th.
>>> >> Sheesh!
>>> >> FYI the thread:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/a72164b67227ee0d/8df314c6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
>>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly
>>> is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
>>> ATM.
>>> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
>> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
>> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.
>> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet
>> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the
>> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
>> server owned by MS.
>> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.
>> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is
>> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
>> that you want.
>
> I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not ;)
> If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then Google
> would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few servers(including
> mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an article
> is being posted from, if you know how, that is ;) Microsoft does *not*
> peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a part of Usenet, peroid.
> Do your homework...
Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they
do
use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
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Posted by Leythos on April 26, 2008, 11:34 pm
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> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they
> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
can subscribe to them.
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Posted by FromTheRafters on April 27, 2008, 4:07 pm
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> says...
>> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but
>> they
>> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
>
> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
> can subscribe to them.
...or archive them.
In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
microsoft by only carrying their groups.
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