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Posted by S. Pidgorny on March 28, 2006, 4:37 am
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I guess that is one of possible kinds of private groups - open to anyone.
Why not to make the groups public right away is beyond me.
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> Microsoft has established separate *private* newsgroups for Windows
> Defender Beta2 support and comments. This is not one of them.
> - NNTP Server: privatenews.microsoft.com
> - Account name: privatenews\spyware
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Posted by Bill Sanderson on March 29, 2006, 5:37 pm
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My guess is that having them on the private server somehow facilitates their
broader use by Microsoft staff--at the moment, and at various times in the
beta, there is been significant Microsoft participation.
It's also possible that there's some legal difference--these groups aren't
carried on Google, I think, nor replicated to other servers--although there
is one UK based HTML forum that slurps all the messages.
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>I guess that is one of possible kinds of private groups - open to anyone.
>Why not to make the groups public right away is beyond me.
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> Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
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>> Microsoft has established separate *private* newsgroups for Windows
>> Defender Beta2 support and comments. This is not one of them.
>
>> - NNTP Server: privatenews.microsoft.com
>> - Account name: privatenews\spyware
>> - Password: spyware
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Posted by on April 2, 2006, 12:45 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options >My guess is that having them on the private server somehow facilitates their
>broader use by Microsoft staff--at the moment, and at various times in the
>beta, there is been significant Microsoft participation.
Eh. The biggest difference is that these are on a server Microsoft controls,
and when the beta programme is over, the groups can be deleted.
On the public Usenet, there's no way to delete a newsgroup reliably.
Alun.
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Posted by S. Pidgorny on April 2, 2006, 5:59 am
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> Eh. The biggest difference is that these are on a server Microsoft
> controls,
> and when the beta programme is over, the groups can be deleted.
>
> On the public Usenet, there's no way to delete a newsgroup reliably.
>
Not quite true. The microsoft.public.* hierarchy is sourced from the
Microsoft servers too and MSFT has effective controls over those groups.
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Posted by Alun Jones on April 9, 2006, 5:12 pm
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>> Eh. The biggest difference is that these are on a server Microsoft
>> controls,
>> and when the beta programme is over, the groups can be deleted.
>>
>> On the public Usenet, there's no way to delete a newsgroup reliably.
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>Not quite true. The microsoft.public.* hierarchy is sourced from the
>Microsoft servers too and MSFT has effective controls over those groups.
"Sourced" in what way?
Very possibly, newgroup messages might only be accepted from a Microsoft feed,
but since Usenet has no usable authentication on control messages, how would
that be made reliable?
Certainly, it's possible to make postings to news servers other than
Microsoft's (I'm doing it right now) which make it back on to Microsoft's news
servers and out to the rest of the world. They may even reach the rest of the
world without touching Microsoft - check the "Path" line to see if this is the
case at _your_ local Usenet server.
Microsoft have, on occasion, tried to remove newsgroups while they were still
being used, and the net effect is that Microsoft's servers no longer have the
groups... but all the other Usenet servers still persist in carrying the
groups, preferring to delete newsgroups solely by their lack of traffic,
rather than obeying possibly-forged rmgroup messages.
Once a newsgroup is propagated into the public Usenet, it's essentially
impossible to delete, because you'd be asking every Usenet administrator to do
your bidding - and there are plenty who have bizarre agendae of their own.
Alun.
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