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Re: WMF Exploit question Panda_man 01-05-2006
Posted by =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?= on January 5, 2006, 3:31 pm
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Dave ,Panda TruPrevent technologies blocked KIX32.exe in your AV-CLS folder
as dangerous operation which tries to modify host files...

Any comments/ according to Panda and ICSA labs ,TruPrevent have 0 % false
positives/...


Panda_man
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"David H. Lipman" wrote:

>
> | Visit the Windows Live Safety Center and use the Complete Scan option
> | to check for and remove malicious software that takes advantage of this
> | vulnerability.
> |
> | Windows Live Safety center
> | http://safety.live.com/site/en-US/default.htm
> |
>
> Carey:
>
> Please /* STOP */ suggesting that web site !
>
> It is a Beta and has the lowest catch rate in the AV industry.
>
> Yesterday I placed three WMF-Exploit file in a folder and scanned the PC.
They were
> detected but NOT deleted.
>
> I gave it a Zoo and it had a 22% catch rate. I have been continually testing
Windows Live
> Safety and the results are poor to bad. I have been providing feedback to
Randy Treit,
> Microsoft, and it was based upon my feedback that the lastest version now
allows you to scan
> a particular location and not just all hard disks. However you STILL can't
save or capture
> a log of was was performed or found. You can't even copy and paste from the
web site.
>
> Just for this post, I tested a Zoo of infectors. 74 EXE only files. I made
it *very*
> simple and none were installed into the OS, all are just sitting in a folder
and I scanned
> that folder. ALL of these EXE's have been submitted to Microsoft via the
submission email
> address prior to this test.
>
> In this test it found oly 43 of the 74 known to be infectors were found.thats
only 58% !
> If you are infected with the one of the infectors NOT recognized by the web
site you are
> screwed.
>
> I ten took that same zoo of EXE file and scanned with the Kaspersky module in
my Multi AV
> Scanning Tool and the Kaspersky web based scanner. The results were 89% of
the files were
> deleted ! 8 were left. of those eight that were left, Kaspersky had their
infections
> detected BUT the file was not removed for some reason such as...
>
> C:\CMDINST.EXE archive: Inno
> C:\CMDINST.EXE/data0001 packed: UPX
> C:\CMDINST.EXE/data0001 infected: not-a-virus:AdWare.Win32.CommAd.a
> C:\CMDINST.EXE/data0001 disinfection failed:
not-a-virus:AdWare.Win32.CommAd.a
> C:\CMDINST.EXE disinfection failed: not-a-virus:AdWare.Win32.CommAd.a
> C:\DH9013.EXE archive: NSIS
> C:\DH9013.EXE/data0002 infected: Trojan-Clicker.Win32.Small.jf
> C:\DH9013.EXE/data0002 disinfection failed: Trojan-Clicker.Win32.Small.jf
> C:\DH9013.EXE disinfection failed: Trojan-Clicker.Win32.Small.jf
> C:\MOMSON~1.EXE/bpkhk.dll infected: not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.g
> C:\MOMSON~1.EXE/bpkhk.dll disinfection failed:
not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.g
> C:\MOMSON~1.EXE disinfection failed: not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.Perflogger.g
>
> Scanning the system using the McAfee and Sophos modules in my Multi AV
Scanning tool removed
> those remaining 8 files !
>
> I know that you are a MS MVP. That does not mean that you HAVE TO only
provide Microsoft
> based solutions. If someone has a problem, and it is security related, please
suppl the
> BEST solution and not just a Microsoft solution.
>
> If you are going to give out web sites of online anti virus scanners here is a
list of tried
> an true, well exstabled, anti virus vendors..
>
> Kaspersky:
> http://www.kaspersky.com/de/scanforvirus
>
> Trend:
> http://housecall.antivirus.com
> http://housecall.trendmicro.com
>
> Symantec:
> http://security.symantec.com/
>
> F-Secure:
> http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/ols.shtml
>
> McAfee:
> http://www.mcafee.com/myapps/mfs/default.asp
>
> BitDefender:
> http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/license.php
>
> Freedom Online scanner:
> http://www.freedom.net/viruscenter/index.html
>
> Panda ActiveScan:
> http://http://www.activescan.com/
>
> Computer Associates:
> http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
>
>
>
> Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --
> http://www.ik-cs.com/programs/virtools/Multi_AV.exe
>
> To use this utility, perform the following...
> Execute; Multi_AV.exe { Note: You must use the default folder C:\AV-CLS }
> Choose; Unzip
> Choose; Close
>
> Execute; C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT
> { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS }
>
> NOTE: You may have to disable your software FireWall or allow WGET.EXE to go
through your
> FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files.
>
> C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT -- { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS}
> This will bring up the initial menu of choices and should be executed in
Normal Mode.
> This way all the components can be downloaded from each AV vendor's web site.
> The choices are; Sophos, Trend, McAfee, Kaspersky, Exit this menu and Reboot
the PC.
>
> You can choose to go to each menu item and just download the needed files or
you can
> download the files and perform a scan in Normal Mode. Once you have downloaded
the files
> needed for each scanner you want to use, you should reboot the PC into Safe
Mode [F8 key
> during boot] and re-run the menu again and choose which scanner you want to
run in Safe
> Mode. It is suggested to run the scanners in both Safe Mode and Normal Mode.
>
> When the menu is displayed hitting 'H' or 'h' will bring up a more
comprehensive PDF help
> file. http://www.ik-cs.com/multi-av.htm
>
>
> * * * Please report back your results * * *
>
>
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus

Posted by Leythos on January 5, 2006, 4:01 pm
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Pandaman@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> Dave ,Panda TruPrevent technologies blocked KIX32.exe in your AV-CLS folder
> as dangerous operation which tries to modify host files...
>
> Any comments/ according to Panda and ICSA labs ,TruPrevent have 0 % false
> positives/...
>
>
> Panda_man

I would suggest that you stop using Panda :)

--

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remove 999 in order to email me

Posted by =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?= on January 5, 2006, 5:06 pm
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Just for your information ,today I renewed my services and bought Panda 2006
for my personal PC so Panda will be protectiong my computer the whole 2006
year.
:-)


Panda_man
--
Prevention is always better than cure !
Panda TruPrevent - the most intelligent technology to combat unknown malware
http://www.pandasoftware.com
http://free.hit.bg/fightmalware/homepage_en.htm




"Leythos" wrote:

> Pandaman@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> > Dave ,Panda TruPrevent technologies blocked KIX32.exe in your AV-CLS folder
> > as dangerous operation which tries to modify host files...
> >
> > Any comments/ according to Panda and ICSA labs ,TruPrevent have 0 % false
> > positives/...
> >
> >
> > Panda_man
>
> I would suggest that you stop using Panda :)
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me
>

Posted by Margaret Wilson on January 6, 2006, 2:14 pm
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Yeah, that's what Panda's tech support told me. It's simply bull. I
gave up on Panda and now use NOD32. Much better protection & support
for less $$. Less bloat, too.

Regards,

Margaret

Leythos wrote:
> Pandaman@discussions.microsoft.com says...
>> Dave ,Panda TruPrevent technologies blocked KIX32.exe in your AV-CLS folder
>> as dangerous operation which tries to modify host files...
>>
>> Any comments/ according to Panda and ICSA labs ,TruPrevent have 0 % false
>> positives/...
>>
>>
>> Panda_man
>
> I would suggest that you stop using Panda :)
>

Posted by David H. Lipman on January 5, 2006, 4:26 pm
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| Dave ,Panda TruPrevent technologies blocked KIX32.exe in your AV-CLS folder
| as dangerous operation which tries to modify host files...
|
| Any comments/ according to Panda and ICSA labs ,TruPrevent have 0 % false
| positives/...
|
| Panda_man

Kix32.exe is the nterpreter. It loads script in the form of .KIX. It will
make sure that
the .\etc\hosts file is empty and other things to make sure that malware has not
altered the
OS such that that the utility can not go to the respective AV vendors web sites
and download
the needed files.

I suggest that Panda is mis-interpreting that activity. Since KiXtart is
interpreted code,
it is open source and one can examine the KIX files and see there is NO
malicious activity
being performed.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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