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Posted by Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] on October 17, 2005, 2:22 pm
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> Even if anyone were to believe you weren't a script kiddie collecting
> viruses/malware no one in their right mind would submit a sample(s)
> to you for your collection! lol Your newbish request will be laughed
> at and mocked since it is obvious you haven't a friggin clue how to
> test or collect and a some AV scanners, although hotmail likes to
> pick crappy ones and have for years (IMHO), unless they are very new
> in the wild examples/unknown not picked up by heuristics, would not
> allow naked infectious files to pass the gauntlet easily, as was
> sated previously and correctly but it you want your lame kiddy
> friends to send you some tell them to use WinRAR with a password and
> then WinZip or the equivalent to zip up the .rar and then most all AV
> will not detect when sent through mail filters unless the attachments
> types aren't are supported by the mail services filter system. And
> if you want real info that is unbiased by people whom aren't endorsed
> by any of AV companies and Anti-Spyware companies either who do real
> tests that are better than any lame half arsed collection which
> anyone here including you will ever have =p than check out these guys
> and learn the truth not hate bs that is often being spoon fed to the
> masses by people here who think they can test an AV with eicar crap.
> Hell anyone could right an AV in one night with some coding knowledge
> to detect those lame test files ... THAT IS NOT A TEST!!! And for the
> people who think they know about honey-pots or honey-nets also get a
> clue how to set up a real one with VMware and a real sandbox using
> say Linux not friggin just Win XP all by itself unless you wanted him
> to infect the PC and corrupt it before he could determine how bad his
> fly-by-night AV scanner worked. It is as bad as handing a guy a gun
> to protect himself after you shoot him in the foot! hahaha please
> silly ppl get a clue use a real AV scanner as your primary "monitor"
> and some good ones for second and tertiary protection that are
> compatible and setup as on-demand manual scan only and not buggy
> Norton crap why not try KAV as 1st aka. Kaspersky Anti-Virus Pro
> 99.6% accurate and/or maybe BitDefender Pro Plus and/or ESET NOD32
> (best heuristics for wild samples/unknowns). And yes I have tested
> many AV and agree with http://www.av-comparatives.org because I have
> experience most of the AV scanners they test over the years and hands
> down KAV is unbeatable in accuracy although I don't use all of them
> at this time I DO have and use adn keep up to date: KAV , NOD32,
> F-Prot (cmd line), AVP (cmd line), MS Anti-Spyware, Ad-Aware Pro SE,
> SpyBot S&D, SpywareBlaster, Webroot Spy Sweeper, IE-SPYAD, AnalogX
> Script Defender, CCleaner, VBA32 Console Scanner, MailWasherPro,
> VMware Workstation, and more personal tweaks and integration with
> programs so that I would have to be asleep at the wheel to get
> infected and I really tend to not trust any AV or AS 100% and never
> will or should and tend to spy into binaries and look for suspect
> code on my own with certain editors and file analyzers and process
> and viewers port. Yes sad I have the free time to do this for fun?
> ;) But unlike some I am not bs'ing about it I can often disinfect
> unknown new samples in the rare case they get past the blockade or if
> I feel like being risky and infect myself to test my skills with
> non-HD wiping nasties of course and I have learned where the majority
> hide and how and what to look for and where. This took years and I
> don't suggest it to anyone just as I don't suggest testing or
> collecting zoo samples to test your AV/AS scanners unless you like to
> play with fire and risk everyone of your friends in your address book
> and the rest of the INTERNET for that matter leave your "test" box
> offline if you might infect others by your negligence and get a life
> and a clue. No one needs more script kiddies or newbie mad
> scientists with a PC and 1/3 of a underdeveloped brain. But if
> someone with a serious plan and some intellect and experience wants
> to test their AV or several for a comparative that is fine just be
> serious, know what your doing and be warned of possible
> consequences.... ;) Have a Nice Day all! Don't get me wrong some of
> you do no what is going on around here ...others sadly no clue what
> they are doing. ;-)
My eyes hurt from just looking at this.
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