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Process remover/killer ToddAndMargo 05-06-2007
Posted by Nick Goetz on May 8, 2007, 1:18 pm
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> 'ToddAndMargo' wrote, in part:
>| I was trying to get one question answered: "Is there a third
>| party tool process tool that will allow me to see these processes
>| and kill them as desired? " I stated VERY clearly that I did
>| not have a virus. I stated that it was a theory question
>| several times.
> _____
>
> The advice you have been given is good. No one refused to provide
> information. Information you could easily get via a Google search if
> you know as much as you presume. If you don't ask the right question,
> and if you persist in following your narrow quest without
> communicating what that quest is, then you should expect EXACTLY what
> you got. You took up a lot of newgroup participants time, you got a
> lot of good information. Yet you see yourself as the injured party.
> Get over it. Take the usenet behavior advice, or be prepared to face
> a dwindling respone to ANY questions you ask.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
>|> What an A$$!
>| > Mike Pawlak
>|
>| > You've got a deal.
>| > We won't answer, and you can ask for a refund.
>| > Len Agoado
>|
>| > You are well on your way to not only avoiding getting answers to
>| > questions you do NOT ask, but also to avoiding getting answers
>| > to question you DO ask.
>| > Phil Weldon
>|
>| Hi Mike, Len, and Phil,
>|
>| I apologize that my frustrated post offended you. To truly
>| understand my frustration, you should read the post that Dave
>| followed me over to this group with:
>|
>|
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/brows
> e_thread/thread/ab8d20a3073d5d0b/?hl=en#
>|
>| I was trying to get one question answered: "Is there a third
>| party tool process tool that will allow me to see these processes
>| and kill them as desired? " I stated VERY clearly that I did
>| not have a virus. I stated that it was a theory question
>| several times.
>|
>| Dave and others decided I had a virus and refused to
>| answer the question. I posted to this group out of frustration,
>| thinking that it would have a more professional attitude.
>|
>| Now, for asking the question (on the other group),
>|
>| 1) I got mis-quoted and told "You aren't clean, you said
>| it yourself" when I said no such thing by Dave,
>|
>| 2) I got snotted on by poprivet
>| "Too bad; otherwise you could be helped",
>|
>| 3) After reiterating I had no virus, again from Dave, I got
>| "You are making faux conclusions and trying to
>| heal your computer without the knowledge
>| needed. This is a bad combo. ... I suggest you gather ALL
>| the facts, including any/all anti virus logs like Kaspersky,
>| and create a new post. Here's a good place to do so...
>| news:microsoft.public.security.virus "
>|
>| 4) I got psychoanalyzed by Dave,
>| "You are in denial. Your PC is NOT clean"
>|
>| 5) At this point, I posted on your groups, hoping to shake Dave.
>| He followed me over and still wanted all kinds of information
>| I was not about to send him. Still he refused to answer the
>| question.
>|
>| 6) When I could not find the software that CreateWindow recommended
>| at Microsoft downloads, I got called a liar by Dave
>| "You didn't look.."
>| By the way, my mistake was looking for the software at "Microsoft
>| Downloads"
>| as CreateWindow recommended. The software is actually at TechNet.
>| My bad search:
>|
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?pocId=&freetext=Process
> %20Explorer&DisplayLang=en
>|
>| 7) Finally, after an a long letter to Dave, again explaining I
>| did not have a virus (I AM RUNNING LINUX FOR GOODNESS SAKES),
>| he finally sent me the link I was looking for.
>|
>| To be fair to Dave, he also wrote a very informative letter about
>| the registry and where winlogon virus hid.
>|
>| 8) Finally, "Ytrx" told me I should not the asking "How to".
>| And, he is correct. I should be asking "How do I...?"
>|
>|
>| Now I hope you understand my frustration. I went to
>| the doctor with a broken arm and came out with a cast on my leg.
>| It was like dealing with a (telephone) cold caller from hell.
>| (Although Dave did come through swimmingly in the end.)
>|
>| So, Mike, Len, and Phil, I am an open minded kind of a
>| guy. I would appreciate you three writing a short blurb showing me
>| after you got mis-quoted, snotted on, psychoanalyzed, followed
>| to another newsgroup, and called a liar, how you would have
>| responded to get everyone back on track and off
>| the virus tangent?
>|
>| Just a sentence or two will do. I would really appreciate the help.
>| I promise I won't ask for a refund.
>|
>| Sincerely,
>| -T
>| p.s. Yes, the "T" stands for "Todd". And yes,
>| Margo is a really cool chick.
>|
>|
>
>

Strange thread???

After refering back through the original thread (link from Todd), looked
to me like Todd was clear enough on what he was looking for and repeated
his question a few times. Some assumptions where made causing the thread
to take off in a direction unintended by the original poster (Todd).

Anyway... dumping on Todd was a bit unfair in light of his entire post.

Nick Goetz

Posted by Phil Weldon on May 8, 2007, 2:22 pm
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Nick Goetz' wrote:
| After refering back through the original thread (link from Todd), looked
| to me like Todd was clear enough on what he was looking for and repeated
| his question a few times. Some assumptions where made causing the thread
| to take off in a direction unintended by the original poster (Todd).
|
| Anyway... dumping on Todd was a bit unfair in light of his entire post.

_____

After reading perhaps three thousand threads over the past five years that
'David Lipman' joined in various anti virus newsgroups, and then reading the
threads involved in this discussion, I posted my suggestions. In the best
of all possible worlds, 'ToddAndMargo' would have asked the question "How do
I display ALL processes in Windows?" posted to, say,
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics . Or even more directly, use the string
[ display processes in Windows ] . First hit does the trick,
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
"Process Explorer for Windows v10.21".

Phil Weldon

|
| > 'ToddAndMargo' wrote, in part:
| >| I was trying to get one question answered: "Is there a third
| >| party tool process tool that will allow me to see these processes
| >| and kill them as desired? " I stated VERY clearly that I did
| >| not have a virus. I stated that it was a theory question
| >| several times.
| > _____
| >
| > The advice you have been given is good. No one refused to provide
| > information. Information you could easily get via a Google search if
| > you know as much as you presume. If you don't ask the right question,
| > and if you persist in following your narrow quest without
| > communicating what that quest is, then you should expect EXACTLY what
| > you got. You took up a lot of newgroup participants time, you got a
| > lot of good information. Yet you see yourself as the injured party.
| > Get over it. Take the usenet behavior advice, or be prepared to face
| > a dwindling respone to ANY questions you ask.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| >|> What an A$$!
| >| > Mike Pawlak
| >|
| >| > You've got a deal.
| >| > We won't answer, and you can ask for a refund.
| >| > Len Agoado
| >|
| >| > You are well on your way to not only avoiding getting answers to
| >| > questions you do NOT ask, but also to avoiding getting answers
| >| > to question you DO ask.
| >| > Phil Weldon
| >|
| >| Hi Mike, Len, and Phil,
| >|
| >| I apologize that my frustrated post offended you. To truly
| >| understand my frustration, you should read the post that Dave
| >| followed me over to this group with:
| >|
| >|
| > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/brows
| > e_thread/thread/ab8d20a3073d5d0b/?hl=en#
| >|
| >| I was trying to get one question answered: "Is there a third
| >| party tool process tool that will allow me to see these processes
| >| and kill them as desired? " I stated VERY clearly that I did
| >| not have a virus. I stated that it was a theory question
| >| several times.
| >|
| >| Dave and others decided I had a virus and refused to
| >| answer the question. I posted to this group out of frustration,
| >| thinking that it would have a more professional attitude.
| >|
| >| Now, for asking the question (on the other group),
| >|
| >| 1) I got mis-quoted and told "You aren't clean, you said
| >| it yourself" when I said no such thing by Dave,
| >|
| >| 2) I got snotted on by poprivet
| >| "Too bad; otherwise you could be helped",
| >|
| >| 3) After reiterating I had no virus, again from Dave, I got
| >| "You are making faux conclusions and trying to
| >| heal your computer without the knowledge
| >| needed. This is a bad combo. ... I suggest you gather ALL
| >| the facts, including any/all anti virus logs like Kaspersky,
| >| and create a new post. Here's a good place to do so...
| >| news:microsoft.public.security.virus "
| >|
| >| 4) I got psychoanalyzed by Dave,
| >| "You are in denial. Your PC is NOT clean"
| >|
| >| 5) At this point, I posted on your groups, hoping to shake Dave.
| >| He followed me over and still wanted all kinds of information
| >| I was not about to send him. Still he refused to answer the
| >| question.
| >|
| >| 6) When I could not find the software that CreateWindow recommended
| >| at Microsoft downloads, I got called a liar by Dave
| >| "You didn't look.."
| >| By the way, my mistake was looking for the software at "Microsoft
| >| Downloads"
| >| as CreateWindow recommended. The software is actually at TechNet.
| >| My bad search:
| >|
| > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?pocId=&freetext=Process
| > %20Explorer&DisplayLang=en
| >|
| >| 7) Finally, after an a long letter to Dave, again explaining I
| >| did not have a virus (I AM RUNNING LINUX FOR GOODNESS SAKES),
| >| he finally sent me the link I was looking for.
| >|
| >| To be fair to Dave, he also wrote a very informative letter about
| >| the registry and where winlogon virus hid.
| >|
| >| 8) Finally, "Ytrx" told me I should not the asking "How to".
| >| And, he is correct. I should be asking "How do I...?"
| >|
| >|
| >| Now I hope you understand my frustration. I went to
| >| the doctor with a broken arm and came out with a cast on my leg.
| >| It was like dealing with a (telephone) cold caller from hell.
| >| (Although Dave did come through swimmingly in the end.)
| >|
| >| So, Mike, Len, and Phil, I am an open minded kind of a
| >| guy. I would appreciate you three writing a short blurb showing me
| >| after you got mis-quoted, snotted on, psychoanalyzed, followed
| >| to another newsgroup, and called a liar, how you would have
| >| responded to get everyone back on track and off
| >| the virus tangent?
| >|
| >| Just a sentence or two will do. I would really appreciate the help.
| >| I promise I won't ask for a refund.
| >|
| >| Sincerely,
| >| -T
| >| p.s. Yes, the "T" stands for "Todd". And yes,
| >| Margo is a really cool chick.
| >|
| >|
| >
| >
|
| Strange thread???
|
| After refering back through the original thread (link from Todd), looked
| to me like Todd was clear enough on what he was looking for and repeated
| his question a few times. Some assumptions where made causing the thread
| to take off in a direction unintended by the original poster (Todd).
|
| Anyway... dumping on Todd was a bit unfair in light of his entire post.
|
| Nick Goetz



Posted by What's in a Name? on May 8, 2007, 2:48 pm
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After much thought,Nick Goetz aka nbg@sympatico.ca came up with this
jewel:

> Strange thread???
>
> After refering back through the original thread (link from Todd),
> looked to me like Todd was clear enough on what he was looking for
> and repeated his question a few times. Some assumptions where made
> causing the thread to take off in a direction unintended by the
> original poster (Todd).
>
> Anyway... dumping on Todd was a bit unfair in light of his entire
> post.
>
> Nick Goetz

I just read the thread. Here is the original post:

"First: I do not have a virus. Kaspersky 30 day demo
removed it completely. Please do not send me links
to malware removers.

The Zolob virus starts in the registry in the winlogon
keys. Becuase of this, it even runs in safe mode.
And processes started in the winlogon keys all
show up as a single "winlogon" entry on the processes
tab of the task manager.

Is there a third party tool process tool that will allow me to
see these processes and kill them as desired? A way
to tell the task manager to "show all"?"

The first thing he said is that he does not have a virus because
Kaspersky Demo cleaned a Zolob infection. If he is really running
*nix,what is he wanting windows tools for? How did he get the Zolob
infection in the first place? I doubt his system is malware free. He
needs some instruction on keeping malware from entering in to begin
with. Todd should scan his system with a few more tools just to be sure
it is really free and clear from malware. I think he should start with
HiJackThis and then post the results in a HJT forum. Most users should
not mess with the registry unless they are "guided" otherwise they can
render the system useless. By the way,I have links to many tools Todd
may need on my pages. http://home.neo.rr.com/manna4u/tools.html

max
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Posted by David H. Lipman on May 8, 2007, 3:20 pm
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| After much thought,Nick Goetz aka nbg@sympatico.ca came up with this
| jewel:
|
>> Strange thread???
>>
>> After refering back through the original thread (link from Todd),
>> looked to me like Todd was clear enough on what he was looking for
>> and repeated his question a few times. Some assumptions where made
>> causing the thread to take off in a direction unintended by the
>> original poster (Todd).
>>
>> Anyway... dumping on Todd was a bit unfair in light of his entire
>> post.
>>
>> Nick Goetz
|
| I just read the thread. Here is the original post:
|
| "First: I do not have a virus. Kaspersky 30 day demo
| removed it completely. Please do not send me links
| to malware removers.
|
| The Zolob virus starts in the registry in the winlogon
| keys. Becuase of this, it even runs in safe mode.
| And processes started in the winlogon keys all
| show up as a single "winlogon" entry on the processes
| tab of the task manager.
|
| Is there a third party tool process tool that will allow me to
| see these processes and kill them as desired? A way
| to tell the task manager to "show all"?"
|
| The first thing he said is that he does not have a virus because
| Kaspersky Demo cleaned a Zolob infection. If he is really running
| *nix,what is he wanting windows tools for? How did he get the Zolob
| infection in the first place? I doubt his system is malware free. He
| needs some instruction on keeping malware from entering in to begin
| with. Todd should scan his system with a few more tools just to be sure
| it is really free and clear from malware. I think he should start with
| HiJackThis and then post the results in a HJT forum. Most users should
| not mess with the registry unless they are "guided" otherwise they can
| render the system useless. By the way,I have links to many tools Todd
| may need on my pages. http://home.neo.rr.com/manna4u/tools.html
|
| max

Don't forget the fact theat Kaspersky has NO infector they call "Zolob".

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by What's in a Name? on May 8, 2007, 5:01 pm
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After much thought,David H. Lipman aka DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net came
up with this jewel:

>
> > After much thought,Nick Goetz aka nbg@sympatico.ca came up with
> > this jewel:
> >
> >> Strange thread???
> > >
> >> After refering back through the original thread (link from Todd),
> >> looked to me like Todd was clear enough on what he was looking for
> >> and repeated his question a few times. Some assumptions where made
> >> causing the thread to take off in a direction unintended by the
> >> original poster (Todd).
> > >
> >> Anyway... dumping on Todd was a bit unfair in light of his entire
> >> post.
> > >
> >> Nick Goetz
> >
> > I just read the thread. Here is the original post:
> >
> > "First: I do not have a virus. Kaspersky 30 day demo
> > removed it completely. Please do not send me links
> > to malware removers.
> >
> > The Zolob virus starts in the registry in the winlogon
> > keys. Becuase of this, it even runs in safe mode.
> > And processes started in the winlogon keys all
> > show up as a single "winlogon" entry on the processes
> > tab of the task manager.
> >
> > Is there a third party tool process tool that will allow me to
> > see these processes and kill them as desired? A way
> > to tell the task manager to "show all"?"
> >
> > The first thing he said is that he does not have a virus because
> > Kaspersky Demo cleaned a Zolob infection. If he is really running
> > *nix,what is he wanting windows tools for? How did he get the Zolob
> > infection in the first place? I doubt his system is malware free.
> > He needs some instruction on keeping malware from entering in to
> > begin with. Todd should scan his system with a few more tools just
> > to be sure it is really free and clear from malware. I think he
> > should start with HiJackThis and then post the results in a HJT
> > forum. Most users should not mess with the registry unless they
> > are "guided" otherwise they can render the system useless. By the
> > way,I have links to many tools Todd may need on my pages.
> > http://home.neo.rr.com/manna4u/tools.html
> >
> > max
>
> Don't forget the fact theat Kaspersky has NO infector they call
> "Zolob".

lol
I didn't know that-makes it even funnier now!
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