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Norton vs "?" Film Fan 10-09-2005
---> Re: Norton vs "?" David H. Lipman10-10-2005
Posted by Phil Weldon on October 10, 2005, 2:11 am
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Oddly, I am offered 'Live Update' every two days on average.
Do you suppose it has anything to do with using Norton Antivirus as a part
of SystemWorks? Or have you not used Norton Antivirus lately?

As for why use Norton Antivirus, with careful timing, the price is right;
$0.00 US.

Phil Weldon

| Norton antivirus and any other security Symantec products has many
| disadvantages:
| 1.Live Update - used from many people and from you,of course,offers
updates
| only ONCE a week which is critical for new viruses like Sasser
,Zotob,Sober
| critical.
|
| 2.Norton always creates too much files and folders and reg keys and it
isn't
| possible to be cleaned withouth something else.I mean it is possible but
need
| time and special expert skills in "How to clean a computer after Norton"
| Norton's files are so much that even a malware creates less.
|
| 3.Symantec's tech support is terrible.They never do not know why something
| has happended
|
| 4.In my opinion Norton is bad in dealing with Trojans (this is my personal
| opinion)
| I think so, because I have helped many people but nowhere Norton helped
| with dealing with trojans
|
| 5.Please read this post and you'll see what kind of problem can Norton
create:
|
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/ee04b0b9a2b1e661/2766975658608580?lnk=st&q=norton+av+2005+(in+Microsoft)&rnum=5&hl=en#2766975658608580
|
| It is being discussed in the group you are posting to.
|
|
| At the end I would recommend you to have one of these better than Norton
| things:
|
| Panda Titanium (at about $ 40 a year)
| http://www.pandasoftware.com
| http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/truprevent.htm
| http://www.pandasoftware.com/about_panda/technology
|
| or
| F-prot AV + Panda TruPrevent ( at about $ 60 a year)
|
| http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/win/
| http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/truprevent.htm
|
|
| You can get trials and learn why they are better.
|
| Panda_man
| " Let's beat malware black and blue "
| " No new epidemics of all kind of malware -> Panda TruPrevent "
|
| "Film Fan" wrote:
|
| > I've used NAV for years and have had no bad results. It's saved my ass
on
| > several occasions.
| >
| > Why is everyone so down on NAV?
| >
| > What is better?
| >
| > If I get a good answer, I will switch to something else.
| >
| > Suggestions?
| >
| > R.D.
| >
| >
| >



Posted by =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?= on October 10, 2005, 4:10 pm
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Please read this OFFICIAL document by Symantec
Special look at "Who should use Live Update" and especially on the second
sentence.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2002021908382713?OpenDocument&src=sec_web_nam

Thanks !

Panda_man




"Phil Weldon" wrote:

> Oddly, I am offered 'Live Update' every two days on average.
> Do you suppose it has anything to do with using Norton Antivirus as a part
> of SystemWorks? Or have you not used Norton Antivirus lately?
>
> As for why use Norton Antivirus, with careful timing, the price is right;
> $0.00 US.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> | Norton antivirus and any other security Symantec products has many
> | disadvantages:
> | 1.Live Update - used from many people and from you,of course,offers
> updates
> | only ONCE a week which is critical for new viruses like Sasser
> ,Zotob,Sober
> | critical.
> |
> | 2.Norton always creates too much files and folders and reg keys and it
> isn't
> | possible to be cleaned withouth something else.I mean it is possible but
> need
> | time and special expert skills in "How to clean a computer after Norton"
> | Norton's files are so much that even a malware creates less.
> |
> | 3.Symantec's tech support is terrible.They never do not know why something
> | has happended
> |
> | 4.In my opinion Norton is bad in dealing with Trojans (this is my personal
> | opinion)
> | I think so, because I have helped many people but nowhere Norton helped
> | with dealing with trojans
> |
> | 5.Please read this post and you'll see what kind of problem can Norton
> create:
> |
>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/ee04b0b9a2b1e661/2766975658608580?lnk=st&q=norton+av+2005+(in+Microsoft)&rnum=5&hl=en#2766975658608580
> |
> | It is being discussed in the group you are posting to.
> |
> |
> | At the end I would recommend you to have one of these better than Norton
> | things:
> |
> | Panda Titanium (at about $ 40 a year)
> | http://www.pandasoftware.com
> | http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/truprevent.htm
> | http://www.pandasoftware.com/about_panda/technology
> |
> | or
> | F-prot AV + Panda TruPrevent ( at about $ 60 a year)
> |
> | http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/win/
> | http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/truprevent.htm
> |
> |
> | You can get trials and learn why they are better.
> |
> | Panda_man
> | " Let's beat malware black and blue "
> | " No new epidemics of all kind of malware -> Panda TruPrevent "
> |
> | "Film Fan" wrote:
> |
> | > I've used NAV for years and have had no bad results. It's saved my ass
> on
> | > several occasions.
> | >
> | > Why is everyone so down on NAV?
> | >
> | > What is better?
> | >
> | > If I get a good answer, I will switch to something else.
> | >
> | > Suggestions?
> | >
> | > R.D.
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

Posted by Diane M. on October 14, 2005, 4:46 am
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> Oddly, I am offered 'Live Update' every two days on average.
> Do you suppose it has anything to do with using Norton Antivirus as a part
> of SystemWorks? Or have you not used Norton Antivirus lately?
>
> As for why use Norton Antivirus, with careful timing, the price is right;
> $0.00 US.
>
> Phil Weldon


I agree regarding the above- I am offered LUpdate every couple of days on
average. I do not pay anything for NAV and time my purchase with tax
software I use so that NAV is "free" with the included coupons and rebates.

While some folks may have complaints about support, that is not an issue for
me yet. So until it is, or the software fails me, I have none. NAV has
worked flawlessly for the 6 or so years that I have used it.

D.



Posted by What's in a Name? on October 10, 2005, 8:52 am
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"Panda_man" Pandaman@discussions.microsoft.com on 10/10/2005 in
thought,came up with this jewel:

> Norton antivirus and any other security Symantec products has many
> disadvantages:
> 1.Live Update - used from many people and from you,of course,offers
> updates only ONCE a week which is critical for new viruses like
> Sasser ,Zotob,Sober critical.
>
> 2.Norton always creates too much files and folders and reg keys and
> it isn't possible to be cleaned withouth something else.I mean it is
> possible but need time and special expert skills in "How to clean a
> computer after Norton" Norton's files are so much that even a malware
> creates less.
>
> 3.Symantec's tech support is terrible.They never do not know why
> something has happended
>
> 4.In my opinion Norton is bad in dealing with Trojans (this is my
> personal opinion)
> I think so, because I have helped many people but nowhere Norton
> helped with dealing with trojans
>
> 5.Please read this post and you'll see what kind of problem can
> Norton create:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_
> thread/thread/ee04b0b9a2b1e661/2766975658608580?lnk=st&q=norton+av+200
> 5+(in+Microsoft)&rnum=5&hl=en#2766975658608580
>
> It is being discussed in the group you are posting to.
>
>
> At the end I would recommend you to have one of these better than
> Norton things:
>
> Panda Titanium (at about $ 40 a year)
> http://www.pandasoftware.com
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/truprevent.htm
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/about_panda/technology
>
> or
> F-prot AV + Panda TruPrevent ( at about $ 60 a year)
>
> http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/win/
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/truprevent.htm
>
>
> You can get trials and learn why they are better.
>
> Panda_man
> " Let's beat malware black and blue "
> " No new epidemics of all kind of malware -> Panda TruPrevent "
>
> "Film Fan" wrote:
>
> > I've used NAV for years and have had no bad results. It's saved my
> > ass on several occasions.
> >
> > Why is everyone so down on NAV?
> >
> > What is better?
> >
> > If I get a good answer, I will switch to something else.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > R.D.
> >
> >
> >
I thought that panda was a bit of a resource hog also.
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Posted by Ian Kenefick on October 10, 2005, 3:54 pm
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On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 22:28:01 -0700, Panda_man

>Norton antivirus and any other security Symantec products has many
>disadvantages:
>1.Live Update - used from many people and from you,of course,offers updates
>only ONCE a week which is critical for new viruses like Sasser ,Zotob,Sober
>critical.

Yep, this is a bad one alright.

>3.Symantec's tech support is terrible.They never do not know why something
>has happended

Never do not know.... I would think this was a good thing!

>4.In my opinion Norton is bad in dealing with Trojans (this is my personal
>opinion)
>I think so, because I have helped many people but nowhere Norton helped
>with dealing with trojans

Symantec have improved! I agree that their retail version of Norton AV
is very fat. It does need to shed a few pounds in resource
consumption. But Symantec's detection has improved a lot!

Compare...

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2004_02.php

with...

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2005_08.php

You will see that they have put a lot of emphises on non-viral
malware.

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