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Modern antivirus for NT3.51? Auric__ 08-28-2005
Posted by Auric__ on August 28, 2005, 9:14 am
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I'm setting up an NT 3.51 system (no, really) and I'm looking for a
fairly recent antivirus that'll work on it. (I've got F-prot DOS and F-
secure DOS but I'm hoping for something Windows-based.) Any suggestions?

Here's what I've tried so far:
-Avast 4 Home
-AVG Free
-FireLite
-F-prot Trial
-MWAV
-NOD32 Trial
-Norton 4
-Norton 5
-Protector Plus
-Solo Trial
-Stinger

...and what I haven't tried yet (they're on the list, though):
-Antivir Free
-BitDefender
-ClamWin
-EZantivirus
-F-secure
-Kaspersky
-TrendMicro Sysclean

Anyway, back to the original question: is there a modern-ish GUI-type
antivirus available that will run acceptably on NT 3.51?
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Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.

Posted by David H. Lipman on August 28, 2005, 10:16 am
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| I'm setting up an NT 3.51 system (no, really) and I'm looking for a
| fairly recent antivirus that'll work on it. (I've got F-prot DOS and F-
| secure DOS but I'm hoping for something Windows-based.) Any suggestions?
|
| Here's what I've tried so far:
| -Avast 4 Home
| -AVG Free
| -FireLite
| -F-prot Trial
| -MWAV
| -NOD32 Trial
| -Norton 4
| -Norton 5
| -Protector Plus
| -Solo Trial
| -Stinger
|
| ...and what I haven't tried yet (they're on the list, though):
| -Antivir Free
| -BitDefender
| -ClamWin
| -EZantivirus
| -F-secure
| -Kaspersky
| -TrendMicro Sysclean
|
| Anyway, back to the original question: is there a modern-ish GUI-type
| antivirus available that will run acceptably on NT 3.51?
| --
| auric dot auric at gmail dot com
| *****
| Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.

Forget about it !

NY v5.51 is dead and buried and it successor NT v4 is also dead. There are NO
modern AV
applications that will work under NT v5.51 as their requirements are not met by
this OS.
There is no reason to use this OS and it will only leave you open to all sorts of
exploitations since there are no security patches for this OS.

If you are setting up such an archaic OS, then I suggest standing it up w/o any
form of
Internet access.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by Auric__ on August 28, 2005, 4:55 pm
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:16:00 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:

>
>| I'm setting up an NT 3.51 system (no, really) and I'm looking for a
>| fairly recent antivirus that'll work on it. (I've got F-prot DOS and F-
>| secure DOS but I'm hoping for something Windows-based.) Any suggestions?
>|
>| Here's what I've tried so far:
>
>Forget about it !
>
>NY v5.51 is dead and buried and it successor NT v4 is also dead.

Yes, I know. I don't use most modern OS's.

>There are NO modern AV
>applications that will work under NT v5.51 as their requirements are not met by
this OS.

Thank you. That's all I needed to know.

>There is no reason to use this OS and it will only leave you open to all sorts
of
>exploitations since there are no security patches for this OS.

My reasons are ultimately unimportant, yes? And I'm aware of the
security considerations.

>If you are setting up such an archaic OS, then I suggest standing it up w/o any
form of
>Internet access.

I'll consider that, but even if I don't do TCP/IP, it will still be on
the network via NetBIOS, and my other machines most definitely do have
Internet access.
--
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*****
...the thought hadn't so much crossed my mind as ran screaming in
incoherent terror over it.

Posted by David H. Lipman on August 28, 2005, 5:24 pm
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| On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:16:00 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:
|
>>
>|> I'm setting up an NT 3.51 system (no, really) and I'm looking for a
>|> fairly recent antivirus that'll work on it. (I've got F-prot DOS and F-
>|> secure DOS but I'm hoping for something Windows-based.) Any suggestions?
>|>
>|> Here's what I've tried so far:
>>
>> Forget about it !
>>
>> NY v5.51 is dead and buried and it successor NT v4 is also dead.
|
| Yes, I know. I don't use most modern OS's.
|
>> There are NO modern AV
>> applications that will work under NT v5.51 as their requirements are not met
by this OS.
|
| Thank you. That's all I needed to know.
|
>> There is no reason to use this OS and it will only leave you open to all
sorts of
>> exploitations since there are no security patches for this OS.
|
| My reasons are ultimately unimportant, yes? And I'm aware of the
| security considerations.
|
>> If you are setting up such an archaic OS, then I suggest standing it up w/o
any form of
>> Internet access.
|
| I'll consider that, but even if I don't do TCP/IP, it will still be on
| the network via NetBIOS, and my other machines most definitely do have
| Internet access.
| --
| auric dot auric at gmail dot com
| *****
| ...the thought hadn't so much crossed my mind as ran screaming in
| incoherent terror over it.

First.. My apologies for typing... NY v5.51 and NT v5.51 when it should have
been "NT
v3.51."
At least you understood ;-)

The only way to communicate NetBIOS are the following...

NetBIOS over IPX/SPX
NetBIOS over TCP/IP
NetBEUI

If the other PCs do have Internet access then the LAN can still share Internet
worms. Even
if the ones with Internet access used TCP/IP and NetBEUI or TCP/IP and NetBIOS
over IPX/SPX
(TCP/IP for Internet and NetBEUI or NetBIOS over IPX for MS Networking) you
still chance
Internet worms infecting the NT v3.51 platform via NT shares (both created and
administrative). Such worms as BugBear and SDBot would still have a field day
if the NT
v3.51 platform was not sufficiently hardened.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by Auric__ on August 28, 2005, 6:56 pm
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:24:49 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:

>
>| On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:16:00 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:
>|
>>>
>>|> I'm setting up an NT 3.51 system (no, really) and I'm looking for a
>>|> fairly recent antivirus that'll work on it. (I've got F-prot DOS and F-
>>|> secure DOS but I'm hoping for something Windows-based.) Any suggestions?
>>|>
>>|> Here's what I've tried so far:
>>>
>>> Forget about it !
>>>
>>> NY v5.51 is dead and buried and it successor NT v4 is also dead.
>|
>| Yes, I know. I don't use most modern OS's.
>|
>>> There are NO modern AV
>>> applications that will work under NT v5.51 as their requirements are not met
by this OS.
>|
>| Thank you. That's all I needed to know.
>|
>>> There is no reason to use this OS and it will only leave you open to all
sorts of
>>> exploitations since there are no security patches for this OS.
>|
>| My reasons are ultimately unimportant, yes? And I'm aware of the
>| security considerations.
>|
>>> If you are setting up such an archaic OS, then I suggest standing it up w/o
any form of
>>> Internet access.
>|
>| I'll consider that, but even if I don't do TCP/IP, it will still be on
>| the network via NetBIOS, and my other machines most definitely do have
>| Internet access.
>| --
>| auric dot auric at gmail dot com
>| *****
>| ...the thought hadn't so much crossed my mind as ran screaming in
>| incoherent terror over it.
>
>First.. My apologies for typing... NY v5.51 and NT v5.51 when it should have
been "NT
>v3.51."
>At least you understood ;-)

NP. You should see the stuff I write before it hits spellcheck. :-/

>The only way to communicate NetBIOS are the following...
>
>NetBIOS over IPX/SPX
>NetBIOS over TCP/IP
>NetBEUI

Right, I know.

>If the other PCs do have Internet access then the LAN can still share Internet
worms. Even
>if the ones with Internet access used TCP/IP and NetBEUI or TCP/IP and NetBIOS
over IPX/SPX
>(TCP/IP for Internet and NetBEUI or NetBIOS over IPX for MS Networking) you
still chance
>Internet worms infecting the NT v3.51 platform via NT shares (both created and
>administrative). Such worms as BugBear and SDBot would still have a field day
if the NT
>v3.51 platform was not sufficiently hardened.

That's why I'm seeking a good antivirus. (I'm also looking for a working
firewall, but that's OT here, right?)

If the NT3 machine *did* get infected with a worm, wouldn't my Win2k
machine's antivirus (AVG free) or firewall (Outpost free) tell me
something's not kosher?

Finally... do DOS scanners work okay under NT machines, or is the
environment too different?
--
auric dot auric at gmail dot com
*****
Your clothes, give them to me, now.

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