HOSTS File FAQ - Testing the HOSTS File

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HOSTS File FAQ - Testing the HOSTS File Kayman 11-04-2005
Posted by Galen on November 5, 2005, 9:07 pm
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My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Thanks for response Galan.
>
> The HOSTS File FAQ can be found here
> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm . just scroll down to
> the last question "How do I know if the HOSTS file is working?",
> click it and you will see "Testing the HOSTS File". The second line
> of the paragraph shows [screenshot], click on it and you will see
> what I am talking about. I think that this website is supported by
> Microsoft MVP's. I receive regular HOSTS file updates from Mr. Mike
> Burgess Microsoft MVP.
> I am living in an apartment complex in which wireless connection is
> provided. My computer is funished with a TRENDnet - TEW-229UB, 11MBS
> 802.11 Wireless USB Adapter.
>
> Thanks for looking into my query and really appreciate advice if I
> need to reconfigure my system.
> Best regards,
>
>>
>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>
>>> Thanks Jim.
>>> The screenshot in "HOSTS File FAQ - How do I know the HOSTS File is
>>> working?" indicates the following:-
>>> Pinging coolwebsearch.com [127.0.0.1]
>>> But my Pinging to coolwebsearch.com indicates: [66.250.74.150]
>>> Shouldn't my Pinging to coolwebsearch.com indicate the same
>>> ([127.0.0.1])number?
>>
>> It should be pinging localhost, 0.0.0.0, or 127.0.0.1 depending on
>> what you're doing there... You mention some sort of HOSTS File
>> FAQ... This is a public newsgroup based on Microsoft's software and
>> hosted on their servers. A MSN search for HOSTS File FAQ for
>> site:microsoft.com doesn't show any such screen shot? Are you
>> connecting via a proxy? That's one such critter that could cause
>> problems with using the hosts file for blocking sites.
>>
>> --
>> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
>> http://dts-l.org/
>>
>> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
>> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in
>> the lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>>
>> Sherlock Holmes

Don't quote me on this but it's my experience that there's trouble using the
hosts file when you're using a 192.168.*.* address. Instead you're pretty
safe just importing the sites into your restricted zone. There's a number of
applications - from Spyware Blaster to Spybot which have huge lists of these
that will do it for you. I'd recommend that instead. For blocking ads, this
is the tool I've been beta testing, you can try http://www.adsfilter.com/en/
which works like a champ.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

"A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."

Sherlock Holmes



Posted by Kayman on November 5, 2005, 10:25 pm
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Thanks for valuable info Galen.
Prior reading your post I downloaded HOSTS File Manager version 1.0.1.2 from
http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/SoftMain.htm .
Sofar the system appears to be running satisfactory. However, I noticed
that the small screen of the WLAN Scanning icon (located in the systems
tray) has changed its color, it's now red.
Should I delete/remove the HOSTS File Manager and
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC and rely on Spyware Blaster and Spybot S&D ?
Kind regards,

>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> Thanks for response Galan.
>>
>> The HOSTS File FAQ can be found here
>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm . just scroll down to
>> the last question "How do I know if the HOSTS file is working?",
>> click it and you will see "Testing the HOSTS File". The second line
>> of the paragraph shows [screenshot], click on it and you will see
>> what I am talking about. I think that this website is supported by
>> Microsoft MVP's. I receive regular HOSTS file updates from Mr. Mike
>> Burgess Microsoft MVP.
>> I am living in an apartment complex in which wireless connection is
>> provided. My computer is funished with a TRENDnet - TEW-229UB, 11MBS
>> 802.11 Wireless USB Adapter.
>>
>> Thanks for looking into my query and really appreciate advice if I
>> need to reconfigure my system.
>> Best regards,
>>
>>>
>>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Jim.
>>>> The screenshot in "HOSTS File FAQ - How do I know the HOSTS File is
>>>> working?" indicates the following:-
>>>> Pinging coolwebsearch.com [127.0.0.1]
>>>> But my Pinging to coolwebsearch.com indicates: [66.250.74.150]
>>>> Shouldn't my Pinging to coolwebsearch.com indicate the same
>>>> ([127.0.0.1])number?
>>>
>>> It should be pinging localhost, 0.0.0.0, or 127.0.0.1 depending on
>>> what you're doing there... You mention some sort of HOSTS File
>>> FAQ... This is a public newsgroup based on Microsoft's software and
>>> hosted on their servers. A MSN search for HOSTS File FAQ for
>>> site:microsoft.com doesn't show any such screen shot? Are you
>>> connecting via a proxy? That's one such critter that could cause
>>> problems with using the hosts file for blocking sites.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
>>> http://dts-l.org/
>>>
>>> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
>>> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in
>>> the lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>>>
>>> Sherlock Holmes
>
> Don't quote me on this but it's my experience that there's trouble using
> the hosts file when you're using a 192.168.*.* address. Instead you're
> pretty safe just importing the sites into your restricted zone. There's a
> number of applications - from Spyware Blaster to Spybot which have huge
> lists of these that will do it for you. I'd recommend that instead. For
> blocking ads, this is the tool I've been beta testing, you can try
> http://www.adsfilter.com/en/ which works like a champ.
>
> --
> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
> http://dts-l.org/
>
> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
> lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>
> Sherlock Holmes
>



Posted by Galen on November 6, 2005, 1:54 am
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My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Thanks for valuable info Galen.
> Prior reading your post I downloaded HOSTS File Manager version
> 1.0.1.2 from http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/SoftMain.htm .
> Sofar the system appears to be running satisfactory. However, I
> noticed that the small screen of the WLAN Scanning icon (located in
> the systems tray) has changed its color, it's now red.
> Should I delete/remove the HOSTS File Manager and
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC and rely on Spyware Blaster and
> Spybot S&D ? Kind regards,
<snip>

Alright... This is likely to offend at least a few people to hear me say
this but, well, I don't recommend usage of the hosts file at all and if you
do I certainly don't recommend that you use someone else's hosts file
because what you block or allow is a very personal thing. I did, for a good
many years, rely on such a critter and it was good enough I suppose but
throughout the years I've learned to make better usage of the tools that I
feel are more easily accessible.

For instance to add sites to the restricted zone I use this tool right here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/previous/webaccess/pwrtwks.mspx

Yup, works famously with IE 6.0...

I use the afore mentioned app, now, to block ads...
http://www.adsfilter.com/en/

I use SpywareBlaster to add a bunch of sites to my restricted zone, I find
that's not too intrusive but very effective. Sure, a site may still show up
but it's not going to be able to do a heck of a lot if you've got the
restricted zone tied down pretty well and everything's set to disable...

SpywareBlaster:
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

When and if I use the hosts file or am forced to help someone manage their
hosts file I HIGHLY recommend this tool:

Hostess :
http://www.raymarron.com/hostess/

(It's a pretty decent app, he moved on to coding in a different language but
it's still very effective and VERY easy to use though installing it as a
program was something you had to do manually the last time I'd used it.)

I guess, to be honest, I see bulking up the hosts file with a plethora of
sites as a waste of time? They can be just as easily defeated (though you
still may access the site which I consider a plus) by putting them into the
restricted zone. These are, of course, my views based on how I personally
opt to use my systems and the mileage you get may in fact vary. It's a lot
simpler - the above sites will get you a great deal of a head start - and as
effective but more easily managed in my opinion.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/

"A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."

Sherlock Holmes



Posted by Kayman on November 6, 2005, 3:44 am
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Again, thank you very much for informatory write up. This will give me
something to ponder about. I don't think that anybody should be offended by
communicating your experiences to this newsgroup. It's really up to the
operator as to whether or not implementing your recommendation. Obviousely,
your alternative to HOSTS file seems to be working. If anything your
account should create a lively discussion.
With very best regards,

>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> Thanks for valuable info Galen.
>> Prior reading your post I downloaded HOSTS File Manager version
>> 1.0.1.2 from http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/SoftMain.htm .
>> Sofar the system appears to be running satisfactory. However, I
>> noticed that the small screen of the WLAN Scanning icon (located in
>> the systems tray) has changed its color, it's now red.
>> Should I delete/remove the HOSTS File Manager and
>> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC and rely on Spyware Blaster and
>> Spybot S&D ? Kind regards,
> <snip>
>
> Alright... This is likely to offend at least a few people to hear me say
> this but, well, I don't recommend usage of the hosts file at all and if
> you do I certainly don't recommend that you use someone else's hosts file
> because what you block or allow is a very personal thing. I did, for a
> good many years, rely on such a critter and it was good enough I suppose
> but throughout the years I've learned to make better usage of the tools
> that I feel are more easily accessible.
>
> For instance to add sites to the restricted zone I use this tool right
> here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/previous/webaccess/pwrtwks.mspx
>
> Yup, works famously with IE 6.0...
>
> I use the afore mentioned app, now, to block ads...
> http://www.adsfilter.com/en/
>
> I use SpywareBlaster to add a bunch of sites to my restricted zone, I find
> that's not too intrusive but very effective. Sure, a site may still show
> up but it's not going to be able to do a heck of a lot if you've got the
> restricted zone tied down pretty well and everything's set to disable...
>
> SpywareBlaster:
> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
>
> When and if I use the hosts file or am forced to help someone manage their
> hosts file I HIGHLY recommend this tool:
>
> Hostess :
> http://www.raymarron.com/hostess/
>
> (It's a pretty decent app, he moved on to coding in a different language
> but it's still very effective and VERY easy to use though installing it as
> a program was something you had to do manually the last time I'd used it.)
>
> I guess, to be honest, I see bulking up the hosts file with a plethora of
> sites as a waste of time? They can be just as easily defeated (though you
> still may access the site which I consider a plus) by putting them into
> the restricted zone. These are, of course, my views based on how I
> personally opt to use my systems and the mileage you get may in fact vary.
> It's a lot simpler - the above sites will get you a great deal of a head
> start - and as effective but more easily managed in my opinion.
>
> --
> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
> http://dts-l.org/
>
> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
> lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>
> Sherlock Holmes
>



Posted by Jim on November 5, 2005, 10:22 am
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> Thanks Jim.
> The screenshot in "HOSTS File FAQ - How do I know the HOSTS File is
> working?" indicates the following:-
> Pinging coolwebsearch.com [127.0.0.1]
> But my Pinging to coolwebsearch.com indicates: [66.250.74.150]
> Shouldn't my Pinging to coolwebsearch.com indicate the same
> ([127.0.0.1])number?
If when you ping 127.0.0.1 you get any system other than your own, the test
of the host file has failed.
The local system has always been that number.
Jim



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