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Free Anti-Virus & Other Safety Software ~BD~ 08-13-2008
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Posted by =?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= on August 20, 2008, 11:05 am
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Thank you Kayman. The need is for a new source code that Microsoft is
currently developing but details are mostly secret. What is needed is to tie
the internal safety of 9x (Windows 98 Second Edition) that has Disk Operating
System as its underlying maintenance operating system that Vista lacks
according to Chris Quirke, mvp with the outstanding external security of NT
(New Technology that has its best showing so far in Vista) and these closed
source technologies have been thankfully provided by Microsoft. Windows 98
Second Edition may be unsupported but it is critical in my research for
Microsoft and US-Cert. You bring these two closed source codes -- one
consumer 9x (98SE) has the internal safety with the external security of NT
(Vista) with the help of Unix/Linux open source technologies and it provides
the ultimate safety and security solution for all. A good example of open
source technologies that I like is Mozilla Firefox which even has 256 bit AES
(Advanced Encryption Standard) within Windows 98 Second Edition. Happily, I
have been running tests and seeing if people can hack into 98 Second Edition
but so far all the hackers can do is denial of service errors to Internet
Explorer and as shown in the previous example to VPN.

BTW, forgive my ignorance and stupidity but what is LULA and explain better
for my knowledge and others who may not have all the background experience
expertise in the security industry within banking that you have Kayman.

"Kayman" wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:17:29 -0700, Dan wrote:
>
> > Thanks. I am using Windows 98 Second Edition on a daily basis now. I also
> > use Windows XP Professional and have briefly tried Ubuntu Linux. I have
> > Windows Vista Home Premium on another machine. I now know that Windows 98
> > Second Edition is a safe internal alternative because the most the bad guys
> > have been able to do to me so far is just the Denial of Service error and
> > that just makes me laugh since whoever the hackers were of the APS network,
> > they certainly appeared to know what they were looking for and how to get it
> > quickly but with 98 Second Edition all they could do was the Denial of
> > Service Error because 9x consumer source code is meant as a stand-a-lone
> > source code and not meant to be networked with lots of other machines and
> > that is why in my opinion it was a great lose for all of us not to have
> > Windows 98 Second Edition support from Microsoft anymore.
>
> I do banking and trade in stocks etc. and wouldn't feel safe using an
> unsupported and outdated operating system.
>
> > Heck, all anybody has to do is check out secunia.com and research the
> > vulnerabilities to see which software has vulnerabilities and which software
> > has had their vulnerabilities patched. It is quite simple to do the
research
> > from the search box.
>
> Well, it's a PC! And provided the OS is kept up-to-date, use common sense,
> a PC can be configured to withstand attacks.
>
> > It now appears that by the end of the year --- many 3rd party solutions will
> > be ending as well --- for Windows 98 Second Edition -- sad to say -- and I
> > hope Microsoft will sell their 9x source code to DHS because we need all the
> > help that we can get and it is such a loss not to take the full potential of
> > an operating system that has its roots in Disk Operating System as a
> > maintenance operating system at least until Microsoft is able to give us a
> > viable replacement for the NT source code which users seem to forget was
> > panned by early Microsoft Engineers as the inferior source code because of
> > its lack of the internal safety of Disk Operating System.
>
> As I said, you can configure NT based OS to your advantage.
>
> > The needed solution to the industry's problems are a combination of closed
> > and open source technologies that are needed for the future. The industry
> > has recognized the threat posed by DNS Pollution. Unfortunately, the
concern
> > lies now mainly with the consumer practicing the proper methods and not just
> > enabling remote source code to be viewed by default, reading all emails in
> > plain text only at least initially to understand the threat matrix, keeping
> > their machines fully patched, etc.
>
> The technology is freely available.
>
> > The needed solution, in my view for what it is worth, would be a NT external
> > secure front (Vista), a 9x internal safety front (Windows 98 Second Edition)
> > with open source solutions like Mozilla Firefox (2.0.x) with its 256 bit AES
> > encryption even within Windows 98 Second Edition that Internet Explorer
lacks
> > with Windows XP Professional but has with Windows Vista Internet Explorer as
> > well as using programs like SpywareBlaster that prevent baddies from even
> > getting onto your computer. I think Gary S. Terhune, Chris Quirke, and
> > Robear, all Microsoft MVP's are really good at understanding these areas.
>
> They sure do. But even they have different views with respect to computer
> 'cum' Internet security and security related software. Sadly, not too many
> advocating the use of LUA etc., oh well.
>
> Cheers :-)
>

Posted by RJK on September 13, 2008, 7:20 pm
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...congure = configure !

regards, Richard



Posted by Galen on September 13, 2008, 9:44 pm
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My reply is at the bottom of your sent message.



> AVG hasn't lost its' lustre ! In fact AVG 8.0 has so much lustre that I
> often sit working through all that new "lustre" - wondering how to congure
> it all ! ...the link scanner is pretty impressive, though I've only ever
> seen one or two red X's on a Google search results list.
>
> regards, Richard

These results may interest you:
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=avg+link+scanner+problems&form=QBRE

--
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"In solving a problem of this sort, the grand thing is to be able to reason
backwards. That is a very useful accomplishment, and a
very easy one, but people do not practise it much. In the every-day affairs
of life it is more useful to reason forwards, and so
the other comes to be neglected. There are fifty who can reason
synthetically for one who can reason analytically." - Sherlock
Holmes



Posted by Milo on August 15, 2008, 12:29 am
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try this site for Security/Safety Software

http://www.trendsecure.com

http://www.trendmicro.com/download/apac/product.asp?productid=87



>
> The point the OP makes about AV software is a very real one. AV software
> is
> sold by way of 'push install' onto new computers, not by consumer choice,
> and
> certainly not by quality ratings. In many cases the free offerings ARE
> better in every respect than the expensive, foisted ones.
>
> "~BD~" wrote:
>
> Yet it's possible to get legal,
>> professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
>> free.
>

Posted by ~BD~ on August 16, 2008, 4:53 pm
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Thanks Milo! (and Anteaus!)

Another good site to explore here:-

http://www.windowsbbs.com/malware-virus-removal/67958-ounce-prevention-worth-pound-cure.html

Dave

--

> try this site for Security/Safety Software
>
> http://www.trendsecure.com
>
> http://www.trendmicro.com/download/apac/product.asp?productid=87
>
>
>
>>
>> The point the OP makes about AV software is a very real one. AV software
>> is
>> sold by way of 'push install' onto new computers, not by consumer choice,
>> and
>> certainly not by quality ratings. In many cases the free offerings ARE
>> better in every respect than the expensive, foisted ones.
>>
>> "~BD~" wrote:
>>
>> Yet it's possible to get legal,
>>> professional quality anti-virus and other protective software,
>>> absolutely
>>> free.
>>
>



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