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Downloaded a virus HELP!! Clueless blonde 11-11-2006
Posted by =?Utf-8?B?Q2x1ZWxlc3MgYmxvbmRl on November 11, 2006, 12:26 pm
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The main thing that worries me is the possibility of my personal details
being hacked into and identity theft. I could put up with the ads if they
were not harmful though they are annoying. I have just downloaded the Avira
anti virus though it's not as easy to use as others as I can't work out how
to do a full system scan. I have also just updated to latest version of Java
so I'm working through the easier bits of all your previous instructions
which has taken up most of the day! In idiot speak, what are the basics I
should install - I have Avira anti virus, windows firewall, spybot,
superantispyware, ad-aware personal already installed, is there anything else?

"Charlie Tame" wrote:

> You haven't exactly been stupid, it looks like a reputable site, even
> including a privacy policy which when missing is often a clue.
>
> There are 3 issues you need to learn about. Viruses are malicious programs
> designed to propagate or "Spread" themselves. Sometimes they carry other
> things and do damage but the main function is to spread. Sometimes they are
> combined with what's called a Trojan (Horse) program as a payload.
>
> Trojans do not usually have any automated propagation, instead they are
> "Planted" by someone with access to your machine or by persuading you to
> download them from a website or maybe as an email attachment or some instant
> messenger. Trojans have some motive such as collecting your passwords and
> sending them to a remote operator, or perhaps they give the remote user some
> control over your machine.
>
> Although some bad software is a combination of the two, you see that they
> are not the same. Anti Virus may not protect you from Trojans and Anti
> Trojan will not protect you from virus. A firewall will most definitely NOT
> stop you getting infected by these things, but it may be useful in
> preventing them from communicating with a remote operator or possibly
> prevent some viruses from spreading. The most useful aspect of a software
> firewall is that it can be set to warn you if something on your PC is trying
> to connect to a remote operator so in the case of a password stealing Trojan
> for example it might save your info although it will not get rid of the
> Trojan.
>
> The third nuisance is spyware / adware which is a commercial product
> designed usually to monitor your activity and bombard you with ads they
> think you will be interested in. For example if you visit Ford and Chevrolet
> dealer websites they might send you car ads. I should ad that is only an
> example, reputable companies like Ford and Chevy would steer clear of this
> crap. This kind of software behaves a lot like a Trojan in that it is often
> hidden in something else and can send information to other places. More
> "Legitimate" versions may be used to "Pay" for free software but again you
> would be asked to install those versions.
>
> No matter how much "Protection" you apply in the form of software you can
> still get caught by new versions of these things, so your best protection
> will always be your knowledge. Some of these things can be installed by
> "Exploiting" vulnerabilities in the operating system or some other software
> so it is important to have the latest updates always installed.
>
>
>
> > Oh my God, this is worse than I thought. I paid and downloaded from
> > pcsecurityshield.com from a recommendation on another site for their value
> > for money and ease of use (one of these comparison sites). My Norton Anti
> > Virus etc had just run out and I was trying to find a cheaper version. If
> > I
> > remove these from my system I am going to have nothing protecting the
> > system
> > so do you recommend I have a back up ready to install when I remove the
> > Shield. Going from what you have all said The Shield is not protecting me
> > then but instead threatening me. I can't believe I've been so stupid.
> >
> > "Panda_man" wrote:
> >
> >> "Clueless blonde" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I stupidly dowloaded Drive Cleaner which popped up on my computer
> >> > today. I
> >> > am absolutely clueless when it comes to computers and need to know what
> >> > to do
> >> > next. I have the Shield Anti Virus and Firewall already installed
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > I just paid out for
> >> > Shield anti virus 2 weeks ago which I thought would have protected me
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> >What do you experts think? Please please help me!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Who did you pay for this pest *Shield Anti Virus* ?
> >> Start by removing all of them from Add/Remove programs
> >>
> >> Then -> click here http://pandaman.my.contact.bg/Gen_MRI.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> Panda_man
> >> Silver level Contributor
>
>
>

Posted by =?Utf-8?B?Q2x1ZWxlc3MgYmxvbmRl on November 11, 2006, 1:50 pm
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I have also now installed from www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload, their
spyware detection. I emailed PC Security Shield whom I purchased the Shield
Anti Virus from and told them that I had been told to remove their programme
and my security has now been compromised. They emailed back and said that I
have a spyware infection on my machine.. The Shield Pro protects against
virus and hackers through the firewall but does not address the spyware
issue. They then gave me a link to their partner company Stopzilla and would
give me a free 15 day trial of their anti spyware software! I have emailed
them back telling them I don't want their free trial, just my money back but
I'm sure I'll have a fight on my hands (I've only had it for 2 weeks). Thank
you again for all your help, I'm finding it all it bit mind blowing to be
honest and no doubt I will have to take it to an expert soon. Can anyone
tell me if I have now installed these spyware programmes but I haven't done a
clean up of my system (I'm not mentally capable of that!) is this a matter of
urgency for me to get my laptop off to have someone look at it. As I said
before if it is just a case of ads popping up I can put up with that for a
while but I don't want there to be a security issue with people hacking into
my computer etc. I'm so sorry I keep asking questions but I just want to be
sure of what I have to do now.

"Clueless blonde" wrote:

> The main thing that worries me is the possibility of my personal details
> being hacked into and identity theft. I could put up with the ads if they
> were not harmful though they are annoying. I have just downloaded the Avira
> anti virus though it's not as easy to use as others as I can't work out how
> to do a full system scan. I have also just updated to latest version of Java
> so I'm working through the easier bits of all your previous instructions
> which has taken up most of the day! In idiot speak, what are the basics I
> should install - I have Avira anti virus, windows firewall, spybot,
> superantispyware, ad-aware personal already installed, is there anything else?
>
> "Charlie Tame" wrote:
>
> > You haven't exactly been stupid, it looks like a reputable site, even
> > including a privacy policy which when missing is often a clue.
> >
> > There are 3 issues you need to learn about. Viruses are malicious programs
> > designed to propagate or "Spread" themselves. Sometimes they carry other
> > things and do damage but the main function is to spread. Sometimes they are
> > combined with what's called a Trojan (Horse) program as a payload.
> >
> > Trojans do not usually have any automated propagation, instead they are
> > "Planted" by someone with access to your machine or by persuading you to
> > download them from a website or maybe as an email attachment or some instant
> > messenger. Trojans have some motive such as collecting your passwords and
> > sending them to a remote operator, or perhaps they give the remote user some
> > control over your machine.
> >
> > Although some bad software is a combination of the two, you see that they
> > are not the same. Anti Virus may not protect you from Trojans and Anti
> > Trojan will not protect you from virus. A firewall will most definitely NOT
> > stop you getting infected by these things, but it may be useful in
> > preventing them from communicating with a remote operator or possibly
> > prevent some viruses from spreading. The most useful aspect of a software
> > firewall is that it can be set to warn you if something on your PC is trying
> > to connect to a remote operator so in the case of a password stealing Trojan
> > for example it might save your info although it will not get rid of the
> > Trojan.
> >
> > The third nuisance is spyware / adware which is a commercial product
> > designed usually to monitor your activity and bombard you with ads they
> > think you will be interested in. For example if you visit Ford and Chevrolet
> > dealer websites they might send you car ads. I should ad that is only an
> > example, reputable companies like Ford and Chevy would steer clear of this
> > crap. This kind of software behaves a lot like a Trojan in that it is often
> > hidden in something else and can send information to other places. More
> > "Legitimate" versions may be used to "Pay" for free software but again you
> > would be asked to install those versions.
> >
> > No matter how much "Protection" you apply in the form of software you can
> > still get caught by new versions of these things, so your best protection
> > will always be your knowledge. Some of these things can be installed by
> > "Exploiting" vulnerabilities in the operating system or some other software
> > so it is important to have the latest updates always installed.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Oh my God, this is worse than I thought. I paid and downloaded from
> > > pcsecurityshield.com from a recommendation on another site for their value
> > > for money and ease of use (one of these comparison sites). My Norton Anti
> > > Virus etc had just run out and I was trying to find a cheaper version. If
> > > I
> > > remove these from my system I am going to have nothing protecting the
> > > system
> > > so do you recommend I have a back up ready to install when I remove the
> > > Shield. Going from what you have all said The Shield is not protecting me
> > > then but instead threatening me. I can't believe I've been so stupid.
> > >
> > > "Panda_man" wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Clueless blonde" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I stupidly dowloaded Drive Cleaner which popped up on my computer
> > >> > today. I
> > >> > am absolutely clueless when it comes to computers and need to know what
> > >> > to do
> > >> > next. I have the Shield Anti Virus and Firewall already installed
> > >>
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> > I just paid out for
> > >> > Shield anti virus 2 weeks ago which I thought would have protected me
> > >>
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> >What do you experts think? Please please help me!!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Who did you pay for this pest *Shield Anti Virus* ?
> > >> Start by removing all of them from Add/Remove programs
> > >>
> > >> Then -> click here http://pandaman.my.contact.bg/Gen_MRI.htm
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Panda_man
> > >> Silver level Contributor
> >
> >
> >

Posted by =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?= on November 11, 2006, 2:28 pm
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"Clueless blonde" wrote:

> I have also now installed from www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload, their
> spyware detection. I emailed PC Security Shield whom I purchased the Shield
> Anti Virus from and told them that I had been told to remove their programme
> and my security has now been compromised. They emailed back and said that I
> have a spyware infection on my machine.. The Shield Pro protects against
> virus and hackers through the firewall but does not address the spyware
> issue. They then gave me a link to their partner company Stopzilla and would
> give me a free 15 day trial of their anti spyware software! I have emailed
> them back telling them I don't want their free trial, just my money back but
> I'm sure I'll have a fight on my hands (I've only had it for 2 weeks). Thank
> you again for all your help, I'm finding it all it bit mind blowing to be
> honest and no doubt I will have to take it to an expert soon. Can anyone
> tell me if I have now installed these spyware programmes but I haven't done a
> clean up of my system (I'm not mentally capable of that!) is this a matter of
> urgency for me to get my laptop off to have someone look at it. As I said
> before if it is just a case of ads popping up I can put up with that for a
> while but I don't want there to be a security issue with people hacking into
> my computer etc. I'm so sorry I keep asking questions but I just want to be
> sure of what I have to do now.
>


CluelessBlonde , I noticed you had a nice discussion with David :-)
You doesn't say anything about things you have done to clean your computer .
Removig them from Add/Remove programs is just the first step , running in a
correct way another reputable AV and AS softwares + other steps will complete
the procedure . Perform either mine or David's or Malke's suggestions and
don't be shame to ask for any change you would like to do on your computer
because you'd better ask and then install instead of first install , mess up
and then ask , right ;-)

Regards!

--
Panda_man
Silver level Contributor

Posted by =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?= on November 11, 2006, 2:28 pm
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CluelessBlonde , I noticed you had a nice discussion with David :-)
You say almost nothing about things you have done to clean your computer .
Removig them from Add/Remove programs is just the first step , running in a
correct way another reputable AV and AS softwares + other steps will complete
the procedure . Perform either mine or David's or Malke's suggestions and
don't be shame to ask for any change you would like to do on your computer
because you'd better ask and then install instead of first install , mess up
and then ask , right ;-)

Regards!

--
Panda_man
Silver level Contributor

Posted by =?Utf-8?B?Q2x1ZWxlc3MgYmxvbmRl on November 11, 2006, 3:22 pm
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Hi Panda Man. I haven't even got to the point of cleaning up the computer
yet! I'm not good with computers at all (as if you hadn't guessed!) so
everything is taking such a long time to do. I have removed The Shield (got
my money back too!) and installed Avira (is that the name, I've installed so
much can't remember now) anti virus, installed lavasoft, spybot, kephyr,
javacoolsoftware and have updated java to latest version. When I read all
the previous suggestions to do with cleaning I came out in a cold sweat, I
don't think I could handle it to be honest. Unless you can suggest a real
idiots guide for me as I have the capability of a 3 year old with computers
(a real dumb blonde). All of the above which I have installed all have been
recommended on this board so I assume I have done the right thing but the
clean up is frightening me to be honest (it's 8pm here in Scotland and I can
see me up all night doing it). I really do appreciate all the help you have
given, thank goodness there are people that are happy to help the helpless,
I'm just not out of the woods yet though!
"Panda_man" wrote:

> CluelessBlonde , I noticed you had a nice discussion with David :-)
> You say almost nothing about things you have done to clean your computer .
> Removig them from Add/Remove programs is just the first step , running in a
> correct way another reputable AV and AS softwares + other steps will complete
> the procedure . Perform either mine or David's or Malke's suggestions and
> don't be shame to ask for any change you would like to do on your computer
> because you'd better ask and then install instead of first install , mess up
> and then ask , right ;-)
>
> Regards!
>
> --
> Panda_man
> Silver level Contributor

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