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Can You Find Out Who I am? C. Curity 10-31-2005
Posted by C. Curity on October 31, 2005, 11:27 am
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I've hopefully disguised me return address through Mozilla 1.7.3 and am
curious if anyone can look at the underlying message formats to determine
how to send me an e-mail? The e-mail address provided is entirely bogus.

Posted by N. Miller on October 31, 2005, 2:32 pm
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:27:54 GMT, C. Curity wrote:

> I've hopefully disguised me return address through Mozilla 1.7.3 and am
> curious if anyone can look at the underlying message formats to determine
> how to send me an e-mail? The e-mail address provided is entirely bogus.

If you are not Matthew Williams, and you don't know him, you are stealing
his domain; or, perhaps more correct, forging an email account on his
domain. He owns "fandango.net", and you should only be using it with his
permission.

From your headers I see the following:

| NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.86.8.74
| X-Complaints-To: ....earthlink.net

If you were forging an email address at my domain (see my Reply-To email
address), I would be in contact with the Earthlink abuse desk about it. You
are not anonymous.

If your purpose is to create an invalid email address to avoid spam and
viruses, RFC 2606 actually reserves a TLD which can be used for that
purpose: .invalid! Create your posting email address thus:


That will accomplish your goal, without treading on anybody else's
property.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Posted by C. Curity on November 1, 2005, 6:36 am
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N. Miller wrote:

> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:27:54 GMT, C. Curity wrote:
>
>
>>I've hopefully disguised me return address through Mozilla 1.7.3 and am
>>curious if anyone can look at the underlying message formats to determine
>>how to send me an e-mail? The e-mail address provided is entirely bogus.
>
>
> If you are not Matthew Williams, and you don't know him, you are stealing
> his domain; or, perhaps more correct, forging an email account on his
> domain. He owns "fandango.net", and you should only be using it with his
> permission.
>
> From your headers I see the following:
>
> | NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.86.8.74
> | X-Complaints-To: ....earthlink.net
>
> If you were forging an email address at my domain (see my Reply-To email
> address), I would be in contact with the Earthlink abuse desk about it. You
> are not anonymous.
>
> If your purpose is to create an invalid email address to avoid spam and
> viruses, RFC 2606 actually reserves a TLD which can be used for that
> purpose: .invalid! Create your posting email address thus:
>
>
> That will accomplish your goal, without treading on anybody else's
> property.
>
Thank you. Good points. I didn't really like fandango anyway*, and threw it
out as a more or less a strawman. See change. I'll go with inv until I
understand what the RFC and TLD references are about. Where do I find out
more? My intent with this particular address is to respond to certain
spam[m?]ers. Here it's purpose is to discover how well it disguises the
originator.

* The word only recently re-entered my mind when some radio program
mentioned it. I see it is used for some movie outfit.

Posted by Phil Weldon on November 1, 2005, 12:59 pm
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'C. Curity wrote', in part:
| Thank you. Good points. I didn't really like fandango anyway*, and threw
it
| out as a more or less a strawman. See change. I'll go with inv until I
| understand what the RFC and TLD references are about. Where do I find out
| more? My intent with this particular address is to respond to certain
| spam[m?]ers. Here it's purpose is to discover how well it disguises the
| originator.
_____

As Norman posted, use 'invalid', not 'inv', and use it as the top level
domain name.
Instead of c_curity@arctic_wind.inv
the correct usage is
c_curity@arctic_wind.invalid .

Another reserved top level domain name is ' example'.

The IP addresses and time/date stamps in the headers of your posts are
sufficient to identify the ISP account used WITH the cooperation of the ISP.

You may find information at
http://home.att.net/~marjie1/index.htm
useful.

Phil Weldon

| N. Miller wrote:
|
.
.
.



Posted by N. Miller on November 1, 2005, 2:41 pm
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:36:45 GMT, C. Curity wrote:

> Thank you. Good points. I didn't really like fandango anyway*, and threw it
> out as a more or less a strawman. See change. I'll go with inv until I
> understand what the RFC and TLD references are about. Where do I find out
> more? My intent with this particular address is to respond to certain
> spam[m?]ers. Here it's purpose is to discover how well it disguises the
> originator.
>
> * The word only recently re-entered my mind when some radio program
> mentioned it. I see it is used for some movie outfit.

You actually want to use .invalid; there is no rule which requires a TLD to
be just three letters. TLD means, "Top Level Domain"; it is the final part
of an FQDN, which means, "Fully Qualified Domain Name".

For reserved TLDs, check this link to RFC 2606:

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2606.html

Per the RFC, .invalid is use for online construction of domain names.

There are other examples given, with associated uses.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

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