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Posted by BoaterDave on July 23, 2007, 2:14 pm
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> 'BoaterDave' wrote:
> | I'm beginning, at last, to understand how everything works here, but
> it's
> | taken two years to do so! <g>
> |
> | I first found out about Newsgroups only *after* I had had my identity
> stolen
> | and started to look into how it could have happened. Thousands of people
> | evidently browse the MS Newsgroups looking for help and advice. I'm sure
> | many are even more naive than I was (am? <g>) and must be highly
> vulnerable
> | to being exploited. How many of them do, actually, click on a link -
> which
> | might take them to an infected site? I suspect that I did on more than
> one
> | occasion! <g>
> _____
>
> Glad to help. I had a head start on you; I began programming computers
> in
> 1965 B^)
>
> Many of the dangers on the Internet will get sorted out; and those that
> don't, well, it's better to meet them through electronic mediation than
> face-to-face. Some rob you with a digital touch, some with a gun.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> | Thank you so much for your reply, Phil.
> |
> | I'm beginning, at last, to understand how everything works here, but
> it's
> | taken two years to do so! <g>
> |
> | I first found out about Newsgroups only *after* I had had my identity
> stolen
> | and started to look into how it could have happened. Thousands of people
> | evidently browse the MS Newsgroups looking for help and advice. I'm sure
> | many are even more naive than I was (am? <g>) and must be highly
> vulnerable
> | to being exploited. How many of them do, actually, click on a link -
> which
> | might take them to an infected site? I suspect that I did on more than
> one
> | occasion! <g>
> |
> | I admit I had to look here for clarification of your latter comment:-
> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_jure
> |
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> | WHO CLICKED ON THAT LINK? <G>
> |
> |
> |
> | > 'BoaterDave' wrote:
> | > | Do you know if anyone from MS monitors the posts on Usenet servers?
> | > | Does anyone check the links?
> | > | Might 'newbies' (as I once was - still am to a degree! <g>) be
> | > mis-directed
> | > | to, say, an infected site?
> | > _____
> | >
> | > Microsoft runs its own servers for the microsoft.public.* newsgroups
> (and
> | > provides access through its web based interface [look for 'CDO' in the
> | > header of a post, that identifies a message posted directly to the
> | > microsoft.public.* servers through the web based interface]). The
> | > messages
> | > on these proprietary servers are propagated through the Usenet ad hoc
> (as
> | > in
> | > long standing, set up through RFCs, but decentralized) network. There
> is
> | > a
> | > 'message cancelation' command, but that is only available to the
> original
> | > poster, and not all Usenet servers honor message cancellations. So
> | > essentially, no, Microsoft has no control over posts once they reach
> | > Usenet
> | > servers. But that is the nature of Usenet (Google search 'Usenet');
> one
> | > of
> | > its major strengths - NO Centralized Control.
> | >
> | > The best protection is an educated user, someone who uses always on
> | > up-to-date antivirus and other antimalware protection, who keeps the
> | > operating system up-to-date with ALL security patches and service
> packs,
> | > who
> | > uses a router with NAT, and who uses some discretion in where they go
> and
> | > what packages they open (as in real life.)
> | >
> | > Yes, I am sure Microsoft monitors the posts, but that is certainly no
> | > gauruntee... the greater dangers are perhaps from well meaning but
> | > dangerous
> | > advice - but that is generally kept in check in microsoft.public.*
> | > newsgroups as well as in de jure (as opposed to de facto) Usenet
> | > newsgroups
> | > through the kind of 'peer review' you see in this newsgroup. (At one
> time
> | > there were numerous posts with Internet Worms as attachment to
> newsgroups,
> | > but that has dropped to zero, probably because most ISPs now scan
> email
> | > and
> | > newsgroup posts for malware (Google search 'Swen').
> | >
> | > Phil Weldon
> | >
> | >
> | > | Thanks for that, Phil.
> | > |
> | > | Do you know if anyone from MS monitors the posts on Usenet servers?
> | > | Does anyone check the links?
> | > | Might 'newbies' (as I once was - still am to a degree! <g>) be
> | > mis-directed
> | > | to, say, an infected site?
> | > |
> | > | BD
> | > | ***********************************************************
> | > | > 'BoaterDave' wrote:
> | > | > | On this server, cannot Microsoft remove such posts?
> | > | > _____
> | > | >
> | > | > Not from Usenet servers where you read this.
> | > | >
> | > | > Phil Weldon
> | > | >
> | > | > | Hello again Malke :)
> | > | > |
> | > | > | On this server, cannot Microsoft remove such posts?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | BD
> | > | > |
> | > | > | **********************************
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