Advice Sought re Norton Replacements

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Advice Sought re Norton Replacements Dick K 08-29-2006
Posted by Dick K on August 29, 2006, 9:03 am
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I run XP Home SP2, ADSL, NAV 2004 and NPF 2004. Symantec
subscription renewal time is coming round and, though
Norton has done a reasonable job for me over the years,
I'm considering alternatives. My reasons are twofold -
I'm mindful of the low esteem in which NAV and NPF are
held in Newsgroups like this one and recently Live
Update has caused me some irritating problems.

After admittedly superficial research I've formed the
view that NOD32 and ZoneAlarm Pro look like reasonable
alternative choices of paid anti-virus and firewall
software. One can argue endlessly about "best" choices
but I would be grateful for reassurance that NOD32 and
ZoneAlarm Pro would be sensible selections. Would they,
in combination, have any significant disadvantages and,
if so, where else should I be looking?

Also I'd like to ask whether I'm likely to be able
successfully to remove Norton from my system? I
recall seeing threads in which people reported that
Symantec's removal tool didn't work. In my case,
while I was fiddling with Live Update, I found that
NAV would apparently uninstall successfully from
Control Panel but reinstallation failed with some
unhelpful message of the "has encountered a problem"
variety. That may not be relevant and I didn't
pursue the matter but it doesn't bode well.

Thank you in advance for any advice or comments.

Posted by Kerry Brown on August 29, 2006, 9:46 am
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Dick K wrote:
> I run XP Home SP2, ADSL, NAV 2004 and NPF 2004. Symantec
> subscription renewal time is coming round and, though
> Norton has done a reasonable job for me over the years,
> I'm considering alternatives. My reasons are twofold -
> I'm mindful of the low esteem in which NAV and NPF are
> held in Newsgroups like this one and recently Live
> Update has caused me some irritating problems.
>
> After admittedly superficial research I've formed the
> view that NOD32 and ZoneAlarm Pro look like reasonable
> alternative choices of paid anti-virus and firewall
> software. One can argue endlessly about "best" choices
> but I would be grateful for reassurance that NOD32 and
> ZoneAlarm Pro would be sensible selections. Would they,
> in combination, have any significant disadvantages and,
> if so, where else should I be looking?
>
> Also I'd like to ask whether I'm likely to be able
> successfully to remove Norton from my system? I
> recall seeing threads in which people reported that
> Symantec's removal tool didn't work. In my case,
> while I was fiddling with Live Update, I found that
> NAV would apparently uninstall successfully from
> Control Panel but reinstallation failed with some
> unhelpful message of the "has encountered a problem"
> variety. That may not be relevant and I didn't
> pursue the matter but it doesn't bode well.
>
> Thank you in advance for any advice or comments.

Your choices are reasonable and will offer at least as good if not better
protection than the Symantec products.

The Norton 2004 products are some of the hardest to uninstall. You have to
uninstall all Symantec products on the computer. I would start with using
Add/Remove Programs to uninstall NAV then all other Symantec products
including Ghost, GoBack, etc. leaving LiveUpdate and Symantec WMI for last.
Download and run the Norton removal program SymNRT.exe which can be
downloaded from Symantec. They keep changing the url. Go to www.symantec.com
and search for it. Once you are sure NAV is gone you can reinstall any
Symantec products you want to use. Make sure to run LiveUpdate several times
if you reinstall any Symantec products. Keep running it until it says there
are no more updates. It often takes multiple reboots to get all the updates.
Note that even if you decide to stick with NAV and upgrade to NAV 2006 I
recommend the above procedure before you install it. Upgrades to Norton
products often fail causing a lot of grief.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/forum/Forum.htm



Posted by Dick K on August 29, 2006, 11:59 pm
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Kerry Brown wrote:
> Dick K wrote:
>> I run XP Home SP2, ADSL, NAV 2004 and NPF 2004. Symantec
>> subscription renewal time is coming round and, though
>> Norton has done a reasonable job for me over the years,
>> I'm considering alternatives.
>>
>> After admittedly superficial research I've formed the
>> view that NOD32 and ZoneAlarm Pro look like reasonable
>> alternative choices of paid anti-virus and firewall
>> software. One can argue endlessly about "best" choices
>> but I would be grateful for reassurance that NOD32 and
>> ZoneAlarm Pro would be sensible selections. Would they,
>> in combination, have any significant disadvantages and,
>> if so, where else should I be looking?
>>
>> Also I'd like to ask whether I'm likely to be able
>> successfully to remove Norton from my system?
>
> Your choices are reasonable and will offer at least as good if not better
> protection than the Symantec products.
>
> The Norton 2004 products are some of the hardest to uninstall. You have to
> uninstall all Symantec products on the computer. I would start with using
> Add/Remove Programs to uninstall NAV then all other Symantec products
> including Ghost, GoBack, etc. leaving LiveUpdate and Symantec WMI for last.
> Download and run the Norton removal program SymNRT.exe which can be
> downloaded from Symantec. They keep changing the url. Go to www.symantec.com
> and search for it. Once you are sure NAV is gone you can reinstall any
> Symantec products you want to use. Make sure to run LiveUpdate several times
> if you reinstall any Symantec products. Keep running it until it says there
> are no more updates. It often takes multiple reboots to get all the updates.
> Note that even if you decide to stick with NAV and upgrade to NAV 2006 I
> recommend the above procedure before you install it. Upgrades to Norton
> products often fail causing a lot of grief.
>
Thank you for a clear and helpful response. I'll go ahead with
the change.

Posted by Kerry Brown on August 30, 2006, 1:25 am
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Dick K wrote:
> Kerry Brown wrote:
>> Dick K wrote:
>>> I run XP Home SP2, ADSL, NAV 2004 and NPF 2004. Symantec
>>> subscription renewal time is coming round and, though
>>> Norton has done a reasonable job for me over the years,
>>> I'm considering alternatives.
>>>
>>> After admittedly superficial research I've formed the
>>> view that NOD32 and ZoneAlarm Pro look like reasonable
>>> alternative choices of paid anti-virus and firewall
>>> software. One can argue endlessly about "best" choices
>>> but I would be grateful for reassurance that NOD32 and
>>> ZoneAlarm Pro would be sensible selections. Would they,
>>> in combination, have any significant disadvantages and,
>>> if so, where else should I be looking?
>>>
>>> Also I'd like to ask whether I'm likely to be able
>>> successfully to remove Norton from my system?
>>
>> Your choices are reasonable and will offer at least as good if not
>> better protection than the Symantec products.
>>
>> The Norton 2004 products are some of the hardest to uninstall. You
>> have to uninstall all Symantec products on the computer. I would
>> start with using Add/Remove Programs to uninstall NAV then all other
>> Symantec products including Ghost, GoBack, etc. leaving LiveUpdate
>> and Symantec WMI for last. Download and run the Norton removal
>> program SymNRT.exe which can be downloaded from Symantec. They keep
>> changing the url. Go to www.symantec.com and search for it. Once you
>> are sure NAV is gone you can reinstall any Symantec products you
>> want to use. Make sure to run LiveUpdate several times if you
>> reinstall any Symantec products. Keep running it until it says there
>> are no more updates. It often takes multiple reboots to get all the
>> updates. Note that even if you decide to stick with NAV and upgrade
>> to NAV 2006 I recommend the above procedure before you install it.
>> Upgrades to Norton products often fail causing a lot of grief.
> Thank you for a clear and helpful response. I'll go ahead with
> the change.

You're welcome.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/forum/Forum.htm



Posted by Marek Kalisz on August 30, 2006, 12:18 am
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One addition: Symantec removal tool stops if on computer is ACT! installed
(v. 6 - what I have and experienced problems). It's silly to
uninstall/install again a working horse (program) that for some time was
owned by Symantec (if I remember) but not anymore. But - this is Symantec's
customer friendly way...
Marek Kalisz

> Dick K wrote:
>> I run XP Home SP2, ADSL, NAV 2004 and NPF 2004. Symantec
>> subscription renewal time is coming round and, though
>> Norton has done a reasonable job for me over the years,
>> I'm considering alternatives. My reasons are twofold -
>> I'm mindful of the low esteem in which NAV and NPF are
>> held in Newsgroups like this one and recently Live
>> Update has caused me some irritating problems.
>>
>> After admittedly superficial research I've formed the
>> view that NOD32 and ZoneAlarm Pro look like reasonable
>> alternative choices of paid anti-virus and firewall
>> software. One can argue endlessly about "best" choices
>> but I would be grateful for reassurance that NOD32 and
>> ZoneAlarm Pro would be sensible selections. Would they,
>> in combination, have any significant disadvantages and,
>> if so, where else should I be looking?
>>
>> Also I'd like to ask whether I'm likely to be able
>> successfully to remove Norton from my system? I
>> recall seeing threads in which people reported that
>> Symantec's removal tool didn't work. In my case,
>> while I was fiddling with Live Update, I found that
>> NAV would apparently uninstall successfully from
>> Control Panel but reinstallation failed with some
>> unhelpful message of the "has encountered a problem"
>> variety. That may not be relevant and I didn't
>> pursue the matter but it doesn't bode well.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any advice or comments.
>
> Your choices are reasonable and will offer at least as good if not better
> protection than the Symantec products.
>
> The Norton 2004 products are some of the hardest to uninstall. You have
> to uninstall all Symantec products on the computer. I would start with
> using Add/Remove Programs to uninstall NAV then all other Symantec
> products including Ghost, GoBack, etc. leaving LiveUpdate and Symantec WMI
> for last. Download and run the Norton removal program SymNRT.exe which can
> be downloaded from Symantec. They keep changing the url. Go to
> www.symantec.com and search for it. Once you are sure NAV is gone you can
> reinstall any Symantec products you want to use. Make sure to run
> LiveUpdate several times if you reinstall any Symantec products. Keep
> running it until it says there are no more updates. It often takes
> multiple reboots to get all the updates. Note that even if you decide to
> stick with NAV and upgrade to NAV 2006 I recommend the above procedure
> before you install it. Upgrades to Norton products often fail causing a
> lot of grief.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/forum/Forum.htm
>
>



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