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Posted by Jameseee on August 11, 2005, 3:26 pm
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Is there any way to block access to all web-based e-mail accounts or do they
need to be blocked individually?
I suspect the answer will be individually, which begs the second question.
Is there a good list of the larger providers out there?
I guess I need to block access to Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, AOL, Bell South,
Comcast. Will this block the various messenger services as well? I will
also need to block those.
Any recommendations on how to accomplish this?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
James
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Posted by Walter Roberson on August 11, 2005, 3:39 pm
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:Is there any way to block access to all web-based e-mail accounts or do they
:need to be blocked individually?
They might be http or https accesses to regular web servers, and
there is no common protocol by which one can tell whether a particular
page is accessing email or not.
There are definitional problems involved: is a 'blog' a "web-based email
account" ? Is google groups when one is not logged in? Google groups when
one -has- logged in?
:I guess I need to block access to Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, AOL, Bell South,
:Comcast. Will this block the various messenger services as well?
No, the IM services sometimes use different net numbers, hosts, or ports.
Some of them, such as Skype, are aggressive in searching out ports
that are not blocked by the local firewall.
It is not easy to untangle hotmail and microsoft's instant messenger
service from other microsoft services. One can block the Passport
login pages that they have in common, but that blocks more than just
hotmail and MSN, and at various times I have found microsoft interleaving
other useful pages into the IP range used by the Passport login --
KnowledgeBase, downloads, MSN's [TV] news...
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Posted by I am a Sock Puppet on August 11, 2005, 5:33 pm
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Walter Roberson wrote:
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> No, the IM services sometimes use different net numbers, hosts, or ports.
> Some of them, such as Skype, are aggressive in searching out ports
> that are not blocked by the local firewall.
>
But if ya use a firewall with deep packet inspection that knows what
traffic for these services looks like, it won't matter how aggressive
the software is.
My sonicwall seems to do a pretty darn good job of blocking IM.
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Posted by Walter Roberson on August 11, 2005, 7:04 pm
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:Walter Roberson wrote:
:> No, the IM services sometimes use different net numbers, hosts, or ports.
:> Some of them, such as Skype, are aggressive in searching out ports
:> that are not blocked by the local firewall.
:But if ya use a firewall with deep packet inspection that knows what
:traffic for these services looks like, it won't matter how aggressive
:the software is.
:My sonicwall seems to do a pretty darn good job of blocking IM.
That's nice, but the OP's requirement was to block ALL web-based email
and IM services. There's an unlimited number of those around,
with an unlimited number of potential protocols. For example, some
people IM by renaming files in a NETBIOS shared Windows partition.
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Posted by Leythos on August 11, 2005, 7:31 pm
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cnrc.gc.ca says...
> :But if ya use a firewall with deep packet inspection that knows what
> :traffic for these services looks like, it won't matter how aggressive
> :the software is.
>
> :My sonicwall seems to do a pretty darn good job of blocking IM.
>
> That's nice, but the OP's requirement was to block ALL web-based email
> and IM services. There's an unlimited number of those around,
> with an unlimited number of potential protocols. For example, some
> people IM by renaming files in a NETBIOS shared Windows partition.
renaming files means nothing to packet inspection on the network.
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