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Posted by on January 6, 2006, 6:53 pm
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Is it true that google lets everyone know your ip address and anonymous
surfing programs ill not work with google groups? I hear there are
people that can track every move you make in groups this way? Seems
like a serious security issue if it is true.
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Posted by Bit Twister on January 6, 2006, 7:41 pm
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On 6 Jan 2006 15:53:08 -0800, josh00@comcast.net wrote:
> Is it true that google lets everyone know your ip address and anonymous
> surfing programs ill not work with google groups? I hear there are
> people that can track every move you make in groups this way? Seems
> like a serious security issue if it is true.
Security through obscurity is no security.
In 48 hours I have dropped 2,242 attempts. Those are from systems
scanning ip ranges hunting for open ports.
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Posted by Frankster on January 6, 2006, 7:49 pm
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > I hear there are people that can track every move you make in
> groups this way? Seems like a serious security issue if it is true.
You cannot connect to any Internet site without showing your IP to the site
host. Period. There you have it. Love it or leave it. No choice.
-Frank
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Posted by Frank Slootweg on January 7, 2006, 5:17 pm
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> Is it true that google lets everyone know your ip address and anonymous
> surfing programs ill not work with google groups? I hear there are
> people that can track every move you make in groups this way? Seems
> like a serious security issue if it is true.
It looks like you are not looking for "security", but for *anonymity*.
If so, you may want to look at mail-to-news gateways, anonymous
remailers and things like that.
If you just want to hide your IP address in News postings, then just
use a NSP (News Service Provider) which does so, and use a normal
newsreader, i.e. the Mozilla one or even Microsoft Outlook Express, but
better something like Xnews.
FYI: Google Groups shows your IP address as:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.50.123.81
You can see that when you're looking at a/your posting and then do:
show options -> Show original
A direct link for the result for your article is:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.security.misc/msg/7d02b03f298a2398?dmode=source&hl=en
(on one line)
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Posted by Todd Knarr on January 8, 2006, 7:22 pm
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> Is it true that google lets everyone know your ip address and anonymous
> surfing programs ill not work with google groups? I hear there are
> people that can track every move you make in groups this way? Seems
> like a serious security issue if it is true.
Google does put the NNTP-Posting-Host header in message you post
through them, showing the IP address of the host that posted the
message. This is fairly common practice, also typical of e-mail.
It's usually done to discourage abuse: with a timestamp and the IP
address your ISP can nail down your identity easily if there's a
complaint about certain posts, and oddly enough most of the people
out there who abuse Usenet seem to stop when it becomes known they
can be traced and their identity tied to their postings.
Rule of thumb on the Internet: assume that anyone who cares knows or
can determine your IP address, and if you need protective measures
take ones that don't depend on whether your IP address is known or
not.
--
death.net: because for some problems there's only one solution.
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