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Re: Non-Adobe flash player for Firefox? The Ghost In The Machine 08-21-2007
Posted by on August 21, 2007, 10:02 am
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> That it is, and the NSA has SElinux to facilitate its spying.
> At least, we think it facilitates its spying. I can't tell
> for sure from here, and in any event its patches are now
> part of every Linux kernel and hopefully someone's reviewed
> them by now.

I had no idea the spooks had put code into the
kernel. When did those get put in? And where is the code?
And why would Linus et al tolerate such a thing?


Posted by Michael Black on August 21, 2007, 10:51 am
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(plenty560@yahoo.com) writes:
>> That it is, and the NSA has SElinux to facilitate its spying.
>> At least, we think it facilitates its spying. I can't tell
>> for sure from here, and in any event its patches are now
>> part of every Linux kernel and hopefully someone's reviewed
>> them by now.
>
> I had no idea the spooks had put code into the
> kernel. When did those get put in? And where is the code?
> And why would Linus et al tolerate such a thing?
>
It's the "NSA patch", that's like a trojan horse because it's promoted
as adding security to the kernel. So the believer adds the patch, and
whamo! their hooked into the NSA's secret sub-net, passing their secrets
directly to the NSA.

What I don't understand is that this is the second post in a month
or so (that I've seen) where someone has suggested that Linux is
a security risk in terms of government or maybe business.

The first time, I thought it was just a conspiracy nut, but seeing
a second message makes me think this is just another one of those
posts to cast doubt on LInux.

Michael



Posted by xpyttl on August 21, 2007, 11:08 am
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> (plenty560@yahoo.com) writes:

> The first time, I thought it was just a conspiracy nut, but seeing
> a second message makes me think this is just another one of those
> posts to cast doubt on LInux.

Well, OP was asking about Flash, which perhaps might be something to be
concerned about. It's a little easier to feel warm and fuzzy about open
source code, a little less so when a M$ partner is supplying closed code.

..



Posted by Thufir on August 21, 2007, 8:55 pm
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:51:54 +0000, Michael Black wrote:

> It's the "NSA patch", that's like a trojan horse because it's promoted
> as adding security to the kernel. So the believer adds the patch, and
> whamo! their hooked into the NSA's secret sub-net, passing their secrets
> directly to the NSA.


Those sneaky bastards ;)



-Thufir

Posted by on August 22, 2007, 8:37 am
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On Aug 21, 10:51 am, et...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) wrote:

> It's the "NSA patch", that's like a trojan horse because it's promoted
> as adding security to the kernel. So the believer adds the patch, and
> whamo! their hooked into the NSA's secret sub-net, passing their secrets
> directly to the NSA.

The way it was phrased I assumed that that the patch
had made it into the kernel tarball, but if not then
that's fine.

However, I suppose it is conceivable that some spook
has infiltrated the Linux project and has placed clever
vulnerabilities into the kernel. Is there any evidence of that?





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