Re: How safe is Tor for logging into http (nont https) web sites

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Re: How safe is Tor for logging into http (nont https) web sites Joan Battaglia 10-27-2007
Posted by hummingbird on October 28, 2007, 8:36 pm
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:04:57 +0100 (CET) 'Anonymous'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>you're argue that someone who knows
>your IP address really doesn't know who you are

Which is a fact.

Even if you use a real-life name, that still doesn't tell anybody
who you really are. I've been doing it for years. People often use
fake real-life names to satisfy and fool stalkers.

--
uh oh...black helicopter ... gotta run

Posted by Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 10:11 pm
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hummingbird wrote:

>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:04:57 +0100 (CET) 'Anonymous'
> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
> >you're argue that someone who knows
> >your IP address really doesn't know who you are
>
> Which is a fact.

Only by the most narrow, cherry picked definition of "fact".

To an attacker it's as good as a fingerprint. To law enforcement it is.

But please, don't let reality encroach on a perfectly good semantics
quibble.

>
> Even if you use a real-life name, that still doesn't tell anybody
> who you really are. I've been doing it for years. People often use
> fake real-life names to satisfy and fool stalkers.

You at least managed to get that much right. From headers are almost
universally arbitrary strings under total control of the sender.
They're irrelevant.

IP addresses are another matter entirely. You can't type random digits
in the "IP" field and expect them to stick.


Posted by Franklin on October 28, 2007, 10:43 pm
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> hummingbird wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:04:57 +0100 (CET) 'Anonymous'
>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>> >you're argue that someone who knows
>> >your IP address really doesn't know who you are
>>
>> Which is a fact.
>
> Only by the most narrow, cherry picked definition of "fact".
> To an attacker it's as good as a fingerprint. To law enforcement
> it is.
>
> But please, don't let reality encroach on a perfectly good
> semantics quibble.


Hummingbird will even qibble about quibbles if you let him! He's a
mster at that.

For example, his statement that "There is no gay beach in Patong
shown on the fleximap" means to Hummingbird "There is a gay beach but
that particular map is not showing it." To everyone else his
statement sounds like there is no gay beach in Patong.

Another example. Hummingbird will claim that his website contains no
pictures. But we have lots of pictures from there. How so? Easy.
Hummingbird means there is no html code and therefore it is not
technically a website.

And so on.

Posted by Nomen Nescio on October 29, 2007, 9:51 pm
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Franklin wrote:

>
> > hummingbird wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:04:57 +0100 (CET) 'Anonymous'
> >> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
> >> >you're argue that someone who knows
> >> >your IP address really doesn't know who you are
> >>
> >> Which is a fact.
> >
> > Only by the most narrow, cherry picked definition of "fact".
> > To an attacker it's as good as a fingerprint. To law enforcement
> > it is.
> >
> > But please, don't let reality encroach on a perfectly good
> > semantics quibble.
>
>
> Hummingbird will even qibble about quibbles if you let him! He's a
> mster at that.

This being cross posted from groups I normally read I'm not yet
thoroughly acquainted with with this particular humping bird, but I
certainly know the type.

Nothing I've seen so far gives me any cause to believe you're not 100%
spot on though. ;)


Posted by hummingbird on October 30, 2007, 8:50 am
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:51:25 +0100 (CET) 'Nomen Nescio'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:

>Nothing I've seen so far gives me any cause to believe you're not 100%
>spot on though. ;)

When our resident Franklin Stalker pops up in the middle of a debate
you're having, as he does with boring regularity, and tries to steer
the debate away by posting yards of totally irrelevant cut/paste
drivel, you may have a different view of things. Stick around.....

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uh oh...black helicopter ... gotta run

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