Password Dictionary File/ Each Entry is 2 or 3 Words Concatenated?

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Password Dictionary File/ Each Entry is 2 or 3 Words Concatenated? poster3814 05-01-2007
Posted by poster3814 on May 1, 2007, 11:24 pm
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Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?

Thank you.
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Posted by Sebastian G. on May 2, 2007, 8:16 am
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poster3814 wrote:

> Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
> words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?


No, for obvious reasons.

> For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
> concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
> downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?


You don't even need to create them, you can create those words on-the-fly
from the dictionary:

for(String wordA : dictionary)
for(String wordB : dictionary) {
wordAB = wordA + wordB;
for(String wordC : dictionary)
test_word(WordAB+WordC);
}

Posted by Walter Roberson on May 2, 2007, 10:34 am
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>poster3814 wrote:

>> Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>> words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?

>No, for obvious reasons.

Not so obvious reasons for me -- I created something like that
about a decade ago.

But I'm not clear whether it is a directory of plaintext or of
hashes that the OP was looking for.

Posted by Ertugrul Soeylemez on May 2, 2007, 8:24 pm
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roberson@hushmail.com (Walter Roberson) (07-05-02 14:34:26):

> > > Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just
> > > single words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less
> > > concatenated?
> >
> > No, for obvious reasons.
>
> Not so obvious reasons for me -- I created something like that about a
> decade ago.

Then you created a redundant list (not dictionary) which contains no
more information than a simple list of all terms involved. The
concatenation can be done on the fly, which generally is even faster.


> But I'm not clear whether it is a directory of plaintext or of hashes
> that the OP was looking for.

Either it's a list of plaintext strings or it's a dictionary of
plaintext-to-hash relations. A list of hash values would be pointless,
unless there is some known relationship.


Regards,
Ertugrul S=C3=B6ylemez.


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Posted by poster3814 on May 2, 2007, 9:26 pm
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Ertugrul Soeylemez wrote:
> roberson@hushmail.com (Walter Roberson) (07-05-02 14:34:26):
>
>>>> Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just
>>>> single words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less
>>>> concatenated?
>>> No, for obvious reasons.
>> Not so obvious reasons for me -- I created something like that about a
>> decade ago.
>
> Then you created a redundant list (not dictionary) which contains no
> more information than a simple list of all terms involved. The
> concatenation can be done on the fly, which generally is even faster.
>
>
>> But I'm not clear whether it is a directory of plaintext or of hashes
>> that the OP was looking for.
>
> Either it's a list of plaintext strings or it's a dictionary of
> plaintext-to-hash relations. A list of hash values would be pointless,
> unless there is some known relationship.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ertugrul Söylemez.
>
>

I guess I am interested in either: dictionaries or word lists of plain
text strings - a complete list of combinations - passphrase dictionaries
; OR for a program I can use to create complete passphrase dictionaries.
I've tried searching the Internet some but haven't found them yet.
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