Packaging for MAC address ?

Packaging for MAC address ?

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Packaging for MAC address ? G H 04-09-2007
Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on April 9, 2007, 10:47 am
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G H wrote:

> 1) We aren't planning on telling the User what the software is checking for
> (hoping that the software would be discrete about this)

And what exactly stops them from finding out? Or from duplicating
conditions?

> 2) Average User has trouble keeping from confusing their email password
> from their login password. Doubt they would be able to figure out how the
> CD is checking their system, and know how to spoof it.

Who cares for the average user? You only need one competent user to crack
your software, the other ones will use Google or IsoHunt to find that
cracked software. In your case one wouldn't even need a crack.

> And I'm sorry, but don't see any options in Outlook Express for my 'quoting
> style'.

Maybe you should stop abusing MSOE as a newsreader? Indeed, you'd need a
lot of third-party tools to fix even the most basic stuff, unless you
always want to fix it manually. But don't take this as an excuse.

Posted by Barry Margolin on April 9, 2007, 8:55 pm
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> G H wrote:
>
> > 1) We aren't planning on telling the User what the software is checking
> > for
> > (hoping that the software would be discrete about this)
>
> And what exactly stops them from finding out? Or from duplicating
> conditions?
>
> > 2) Average User has trouble keeping from confusing their email password
> > from their login password. Doubt they would be able to figure out how the
> > CD is checking their system, and know how to spoof it.
>
> Who cares for the average user? You only need one competent user to crack
> your software, the other ones will use Google or IsoHunt to find that
> cracked software. In your case one wouldn't even need a crack.

It sounds like they're not worried about users determined to get around
the policy, just casual or accidental attempts to install on the wrong
PC.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***

Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on April 9, 2007, 9:27 pm
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Barry Margolin wrote:

> It sounds like they're not worried about users determined to get around
> the policy, just casual or accidental attempts to install on the wrong
> PC.

Maybe you should validate this idea against the meaning of the word
"security" (just like it appears in "comp.security.misc").

Oh, and I'm expecting a suggestion what to do with non-networked computers?
Take the default MAC address of the Windows RAS Adapter, which is always
the same? Hm... what about if they use the PPP driver "Enternet", which
emulates a NIC with the MAC address "wwdest" (represented in ASCII)? D'oh,
be careful, serious pitfalls around.

Posted by G H on April 10, 2007, 9:48 am
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Exactly !!!

Anyone that really wants to steal the software, can download a torrent or go
onto any P2P system. We just want to stop the 'helpful' employee that wants
to be nice to his relatives and neighbors. Or in some cases, visiting
co-workers (we've got offices around the globe).

>
>> G H wrote:
>>
>> > 1) We aren't planning on telling the User what the software is
>> > checking
>> > for
>> > (hoping that the software would be discrete about this)
>>
>> And what exactly stops them from finding out? Or from duplicating
>> conditions?
>>
>> > 2) Average User has trouble keeping from confusing their email
>> > password
>> > from their login password. Doubt they would be able to figure out how
>> > the
>> > CD is checking their system, and know how to spoof it.
>>
>> Who cares for the average user? You only need one competent user to crack
>> your software, the other ones will use Google or IsoHunt to find that
>> cracked software. In your case one wouldn't even need a crack.
>
> It sounds like they're not worried about users determined to get around
> the policy, just casual or accidental attempts to install on the wrong
> PC.
>
> --
> Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA
> *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
> *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***



Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on April 10, 2007, 9:58 am
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G H wrote:

> Exactly !!!

Your 1/! key seems to hand a bit.

> Anyone that really wants to steal the software, can download a torrent or go
> onto any P2P system.

I wonder how Torrent or any P2P system should be used to steal your
software. Wouldn't that rather require to hack your servers and delete all
your copies of the software.

> We just want to stop the 'helpful' employee that wants
> to be nice to his relatives and neighbors. Or in some cases, visiting
> co-workers (we've got offices around the globe).

You've already been told that these people are able to use Google or
various P2P systems.

(And please, fix your damn quoting. It's a pain to read your postings.)

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